From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RDNS_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: (qmail 17291 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2020 02:14:34 -0000 Received-SPF: pass (minnie.tuhs.org: domain of minnie.tuhs.org designates 45.79.103.53 as permitted sender) receiver=inbox.vuxu.org; client-ip=45.79.103.53 envelope-from= Received: from unknown (HELO minnie.tuhs.org) (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTP; 14 Mar 2020 02:14:34 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 465BD9CD82; Sat, 14 Mar 2020 12:14:30 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887FA9CD60; Sat, 14 Mar 2020 12:13:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 4A85F9CD60; Sat, 14 Mar 2020 12:13:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: from central.weird.com (unknown [198.96.117.51]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 149BA9CD5F for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2020 12:13:55 +1000 (AEST) Received: from (invalid client hostname: bind: DNS error: DNS lookup for A for 'more.local': Unknown host)more.local ((no PTR matching greeting name)S01060026bb6c284e.ok.shawcable.net[24.71.254.93] port=36431) by central.weird.com([198.96.117.51] port=587) via TCP with esmtp (3998 bytes) (sender: ) (ident using UNIX) id for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 22:13:53 -0400 (EDT) (Smail-3.2.0.122-Pre 2005-Nov-17 #77 built 2019-Dec-29) Received: from (invalid client hostname: the DNS A record (with the targegt address [10.0.1.129]) for the hostname 'more.local' does not match the expected address [10.0.1.129])more.local ((no PTR matching greeting name)future.local[10.0.1.133] port=58280) by more.local([10.0.1.129] port=25) via TCP with esmtp (3488 bytes) (sender: ) id for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 19:13:53 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.122-Pre 2005-Nov-17 #1 built 2015-Feb-17) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 19:13:53 -0700 From: "Greg A. Woods" To: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list In-Reply-To: <20200313003647.GM89512@eureka.lemis.com> References: <202003031815.023IFSlD493028@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20200311225638.GG89512@eureka.lemis.com> <20200313003647.GM89512@eureka.lemis.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI-EPG/1.14.7 (Harue) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Goj=F2?=) APEL/10.8 EasyPG/1.0.0 Emacs/25.3 (x86_64--netbsd) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) X-Face: ; j3Eth2XV8h1Yfu*uL{<:dQ$#E[DB0gemGZJ"J#4fH*][ lz; @-iwMv_u\6uIEKR0KY"=MzoQH#CrqBN`nG_5B@rrM8,f~Gr&h5a\= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --pgp-sign-Multipart_Fri_Mar_13_19:13:39_2020-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII At Fri, 13 Mar 2020 11:36:47 +1100, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: Subject: Re: [TUHS] Command line options and complexity > > On Thursday, 12 March 2020 at 16:22:01 +1100, Dave Horsfall wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Mar 2020, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > > > > > > And then there's the question why you don't like the standard output. > > > Because the number strings are too long and difficult to read, maybe? > > > That's the rationale for the -, option. > > > > More than likely; as I approach age 68 I notice that I'm losing some > > cognitive facility... I might start using "," and see if I like it, but I > > see that the Mac doesn't have it (my Penguin is off the air at the > > moment), and having it as an environment variable would be nice. > > Yes, currently only FreeBSD has it. Because of course NetBSD has chosen a different option letter: 'M' Unfortunately on NetBSD and FreeBSD the appearance of commas (or whatever is appropriate) depends on the locale being correctly configured, and this is not always so easy to do! -- Greg A. Woods Kelowna, BC +1 250 762-7675 RoboHack Planix, Inc. Avoncote Farms --pgp-sign-Multipart_Fri_Mar_13_19:13:39_2020-1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: OpenPGP Digital Signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABECAB0WIQTWEnAIIlcZX4oAawJie18UwlnHhQUCXmw91gAKCRBie18UwlnH hVR/AKDVNipDkAJsNoQCTicPUlx59TcP1wCg20VUvOZBOJg0kALvaSLZd+pJll0= =2O7E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pgp-sign-Multipart_Fri_Mar_13_19:13:39_2020-1--