From: "Greg A. Woods" <woods@robohack.ca>
To: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Interesting commentary on Unix from Multicians.
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2022 12:28:47 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1ndGlL-000iJNC@more.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD-qYGr03bO2TUVfEw8qN2bTKnTcKzO-a0bpFCX868npV2i1Cw@mail.gmail.com>
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At Fri, 8 Apr 2022 17:34:27 -0600, Andrew Warkentin <andreww591@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Interesting commentary on Unix from Multicians.
>
> I think it's useful to have both I/O and memory views for files.
> Things like commands that work equally well whether stdout is a disk
> file or something like a pipe wouldn't work so well in a system where
> disk files can only be accessed through a memory-like interface.
> However, I guess the I/O interface could just be implemented with
> library functions rather than real I/O syscalls for disk-like files.
I/O is good for I/O of course (e.g. to devices, like terminals and
printers and such), and if you can "attach" that I/O to a segment, or to
another program's I/O, all the better:
https://multicians.org/myths.html#nofile
(One big complication forced by hardware limitations of the day was
rather limited file (i.e. segment) size, and thus Multics developers
invented multi-segment files, and as mentioned in that link, stream
access to them was often through the I/O mechanism, but of course this
was a simulation done by copying (I think) data from a mapped segment of
the file to a buffer in a heap segment.)
--
Greg A. Woods <gwoods@acm.org>
Kelowna, BC +1 250 762-7675 RoboHack <woods@robohack.ca>
Planix, Inc. <woods@planix.com> Avoncote Farms <woods@avoncote.ca>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-04-09 19:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-04-07 16:32 Dan Cross
2022-04-08 5:30 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2022-04-08 13:34 ` Clem Cole
2022-04-08 14:14 ` Dan Cross
2022-04-08 13:59 ` Dan Cross
2022-04-08 15:28 ` Larry McVoy
2022-04-08 15:35 ` Dan Cross
2022-04-08 19:36 ` Rich Morin
2022-04-08 21:02 ` Greg A. Woods
2022-04-08 23:34 ` Andrew Warkentin
2022-04-09 19:28 ` Greg A. Woods [this message]
2022-04-09 3:33 ` Adam Thornton
2022-04-09 12:10 ` tytso
2022-04-09 13:09 ` Dan Cross
2022-04-09 19:14 ` Greg A. Woods
2022-04-08 15:45 ` Jon Steinhart
2022-04-08 16:07 Noel Chiappa
2022-04-10 17:14 Noel Chiappa
2022-04-10 17:31 ` Larry McVoy
2022-04-10 20:41 ` John Cowan
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