From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:146::1]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1F522328 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2024 00:52:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33188427C7; Thu, 20 Jun 2024 08:52:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: from central.weird.com (virtually.weird.com [198.96.117.51]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A71043B9C for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2024 08:52:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: from (invalid client hostname: bind: DNS error: DNS lookup for A for 'more.local': Unknown host)more.local ((no PTR matching greeting name)d207-6-82-137.bchsia.telus.net[207.6.82.137] port=65511) by central.weird.com([198.96.117.51] port=587) via TCP with esmtp (4285 bytes) (sender: ) (ident using UNIX) id for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2024 18:52:09 -0400 (EDT) (Smail-3.2.0.122-Pre 2005-Nov-17 #1 built 2022-Feb-11) Received: from more.local ([10.0.1.129] port=65512) by more.local([10.0.1.129] port=25) via TCP with esmtp (3809 bytes) (sender: ) id for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2024 15:52:06 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.122-Pre 2005-Nov-17 #1 built 2022-Apr-6) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 15:52:06 -0700 From: "Greg A. Woods" To: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list In-Reply-To: References: <87msnl4ew0.fsf@gmail.com> <87iky84c23.fsf@gmail.com> <20240617012531.GE12821@mcvoy.com> <0e6792ed-65b0-e2e1-8159-6426a7f15a8d@riddermarkfarm.ca> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI-EPG/1.14.7 (Harue) FLIM-LB/1.14.9 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Goj=F2?=) APEL-LB/10.8 EasyPG/1.0.0 Emacs/26.3 (x86_64--netbsd) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) X-Face: ;j3Eth2XV8h1Yfu*uL{<:dQ$#E[DB0gemGZJ"J#4fH*][ lz;@-iwMv_u\6uIEKR0KY"=MzoQH#CrqBN`nG_5B@rrM8,f~Gr&h5a\= Subject: [TUHS] Re: Version 256 of systemd boasts '42% less Unix philosophy' The Register List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --pgp-sign-Multipart_Wed_Jun_19_15:51:56_2024-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At Tue, 18 Jun 2024 17:03:07 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: Subject: [TUHS] Re: Version 256 of systemd boasts '42% less Unix philosophy= ' The Register >=20 > [1 ] > On Tue, Jun 18, 2024, 4:50 PM Greg A. Woods wrote: >=20 > > At Tue, 18 Jun 2024 04:52:51 +0000, segaloco via TUHS > > wrote: > > Subject: [TUHS] Re: Version 256 of systemd boasts '42% less Unix > > philosophy' The Register > > > > > > That's not > > > to diminish the real help of things like autotools and CMake, > > > > Oh, that strikes a nerve. > > > > CMake is the very antithesis of a good tool. It doesn't help. I think > > it is perhaps the worst abomination EVER in the world of software tools, > > and especially amongst software construction tools. > > >=20 > Someone clearly never used imake... Heh heh! I've grovelled deeply in the innards of X11's use of imake, but I assert that it's atrocities pale in comparison to those of cmake. At least there were real parsers and proper syntax for imake, and indeed it even built on and used other existing well known tools! --=20 Greg A. Woods Kelowna, BC +1 250 762-7675 RoboHack Planix, Inc. Avoncote Farms --pgp-sign-Multipart_Wed_Jun_19_15:51:56_2024-1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: OpenPGP Digital Signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABECAB0WIQTWEnAIIlcZX4oAawJie18UwlnHhQUCZnNhDwAKCRBie18UwlnH hWUlAKCV3Qq+eaqRHKFxnGQnBOMnSaZSRgCg3+Yzmq+sueu/DpnUIa3/0kqzl6Q= =tHAf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pgp-sign-Multipart_Wed_Jun_19_15:51:56_2024-1--