From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: tih@hamartun.priv.no (Tom Ivar Helbekkmo) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2018 18:20:11 +0100 Subject: [TUHS] OT: critical Intel design flaw In-Reply-To: <20180104164557.GI23371@thunk.org> (Theodore Ts'o's message of "Thu, 4 Jan 2018 11:45:57 -0500") References: <20180103134358.3F16818C098@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> <20180103234025.GA23371@thunk.org> <20180104164557.GI23371@thunk.org> Message-ID: Theodore Ts'o writes: > The biggest problem with Jolitz's work seems to have been more social > than anything else. The writeups from that era seem to indicate that > the Jolitz's wanted to keep a much tighter control over things, and > this discouraged collaboration and contributions, which led to the > first of *BSD fragmentation/spin-offs, starting with FreeBSD and > NetBSD. Indeed. I've used NetBSD since it was called 386bsd 0.0, and the way I remember it, we grabbed that when Jolitz made it available, and had an Internet community playing with it and improving it. Patches were accumulated, and sent back to Jolitz. Then he released 0.1, with none of the patches from the 'net. Some of the more active people ported our existing patches to that, and we kept on going. Again, patches were sent back. When Jolitz released 0.2, again with no patches from the Internet community included, it was decided to part ways, and start a forked project on the 'net. This became NetBSD. After a short time, it was obvious that there were two camps: one wanted to keep the OS multi-platform, while the other felt it was smarter to ditch that in favor of maximizing performance and utility on the Intel platform. The latter group became the FreeBSD project. And yes, the stupid lawsuit came at just the right time for the world to adopt Linux instead of BSD, but that's the way the cookie crumbles. The BSD community is doing just fine, thank you, and we still have the better product, so there! ;) -tih -- Most people who graduate with CS degrees don't understand the significance of Lisp. Lisp is the most important idea in computer science. --Alan Kay