From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 2868 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2023 13:22:29 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 5 Jan 2023 13:22:29 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0278242364; Thu, 5 Jan 2023 23:22:21 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuhs.org; s=dkim; t=1672924941; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-owner:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=svKbTK69p0YDi4VkamhIXqAYb3epI/bkElANw+l71/I=; b=P0kW9+466o53inFnxoQKfQAkc9TZ4lIBPT40Co9rZlOpmOHLVYeqSZPaAB6gLVg6hhklJX n2faUQZ4uIt4I1tnGkCwhiTO+inObAZBna4OE/lCsx5YsCqQkWSTiJP3g5j9U9FCaoUOFt /kfPjUkMHhG3Srch7pCqj6pKOM2heio= Received: from barsoom.hamartun.priv.no (barsoom.hamartun.priv.no [193.71.27.8]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BCF6F423A4 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2023 23:22:14 +1000 (AEST) Received: from thuvia.hamartun.priv.no (thuvia.hamartun.priv.no [193.71.27.7]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by barsoom.hamartun.priv.no (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4NnnFH15CtzG2j8; Thu, 5 Jan 2023 14:22:11 +0100 (CET) Authentication-Results: barsoom.hamartun.priv.no; arc=none smtp.remote-ip=193.71.27.7 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=hamartun.priv.no; s=barsoom; t=1672924931; cv=none; b=yeFSYjL0Z8I2bwx2n0upKkCy3rd1YVcWLfSiPNAJRoJktU/eVTZJ2YgmDIVH03onL3/3xQpRbceO+sQpr3F7EsHyFo5fE+LR9b3hVRNdHRbODLkwrE7l2w2W1UemsN7JBwI1q+pChn8farlTIjLXl40RgTWcfELCw5CfzK9LMxA= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=hamartun.priv.no; s=barsoom; t=1672924931; c=relaxed/simple; bh=7nkkfTJY9iqOEIM7g8WAdCnZgCXKg+heBS90r72z9XI=; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date: In-Reply-To:Message-ID:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pn5Nq+5sTbMyDEXZPYyOAT88cAR5ArnEPWdWgK4zoieicZrgSmb3nhCaq48Ig8MfyUPn4un59OTuVyy2olKqr8+heTOmpdl7nqnkFf/b20bg7O8KVNfiNDNfnbp4nLhbVf9Fnq3wGE4Id6HFWuHzWs3l3cl3zmvIS2rhu7OlLUw= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; barsoom.hamartun.priv.no DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hamartun.priv.no; s=20200727; t=1672924931; bh=svKbTK69p0YDi4VkamhIXqAYb3epI/bkElANw+l71/I=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From:To:Cc:Subject: Date; b=aoXRR5lkQqQmmexjMoiFQ8SPFsnuQWO4fVNn9d+ziKt+WkuCAXBO02lm7UCK8ZZAw peqlqjU24xOM8wguMLW7uLFuA5W8p8XIh3ZpNl4q4lLXP/0m8jvBOWDPmmgym75w9o 11uI192CEu/QdPRDZ17O3Wgsa7NMuoprEioFb+u6vDLu5vU0tcFioWBwxjpKpcckL+ xVYRARvm98POCi/jCn4nKj/uzZFFs5Mm46pLe6R/S5lgQ0Lz6C+7Vq07oA6gn8/rc9 dHqxpO2qr8Xx+SEWS1fmLOlba7+CNIveCh/brdozYUPCr/MX0az17X/oW7NCC1qo6p 19IetJeO9Ky9A== Received: by thuvia.hamartun.priv.no (Postfix, from userid 501) id E60894DF37; Thu, 5 Jan 2023 14:22:10 +0100 (CET) To: Jon Steinhart References: <3a891e61-a8b1-cfe4-95ab-c60e6ac6eb42@gmail.com> <202301031719.303HJq6A540885@darkstar.fourwinds.com> Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2023 14:22:10 +0100 In-Reply-To: <202301031719.303HJq6A540885@darkstar.fourwinds.com> (Jon Steinhart's message of "Tue, 3 Jan 2023 09:19:52 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Message-ID-Hash: 2Q5RDIYLCFE7SPA4URWDVVP4C7LC4WLR X-Message-ID-Hash: 2Q5RDIYLCFE7SPA4URWDVVP4C7LC4WLR X-MailFrom: tih@hamartun.priv.no X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: TUHS main list X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: A few comments on porting the Bourne shell List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via TUHS Reply-To: Tom Ivar Helbekkmo X-Spam: Yes Jon Steinhart writes: > Wow! Small programs that do one thing and do it well connected together to > do more complicated things? What an awesome idea :-) *grin* Sometimes people call it "screen scraping", and seem to think it's wrong to desire parseable output from commands. I like to point them at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc4ROCJYbm0&t=358 -tih -- Most people who graduate with CS degrees don't understand the significance of Lisp. Lisp is the most important idea in computer science. --Alan Kay