From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 19757 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2021 10:35:05 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 25 Nov 2021 10:35:05 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 728C19C792; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 20:35:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 749E693D42; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 20:32:31 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; secure) header.d=hamartun.priv.no header.i=@hamartun.priv.no header.b="YgJ2JG4X"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 7CDC093D42; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 20:32:27 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 365 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 20:32:24 AEST Received: from barsoom.hamartun.priv.no (barsoom.hamartun.priv.no [193.71.27.8]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4883393D1B for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 20:32:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: from thuvia.hamartun.priv.no (thuvia.hamartun.priv.no [193.71.27.7]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by barsoom.hamartun.priv.no (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4J0DYg0BLqzG2dD; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 11:26:15 +0100 (CET) Authentication-Results: barsoom.hamartun.priv.no; arc=none smtp.remote-ip=193.71.27.7 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=hamartun.priv.no; s=barsoom; t=1637835975; cv=none; b=o1Hzm6eSVo2//aSOn5ANjfO8lBJEIe6nBQ432UWWE81UWJ1RZCOIVMWUJvqXf2Auet9XhOQNVNjEPYkfel+VQtr1qlKPAOZ92ZPUoTZ7IBEd0nnLRXiDwanQ1XVGVNEr6v8nrUPk3l+7siZ8908FiPDe9tI/5eisqtRspBbBnvI= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=hamartun.priv.no; s=barsoom; t=1637835975; c=relaxed/simple; bh=FKGr7M2uw3ULwlvuPcOMbIrSmEC/Gpl2gRJhepcbAXY=; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date: In-Reply-To:Message-ID:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Nm8LoemVZOHm+EhiqCEpTEJtBxRnglr8opfw3N0aYhjYvIVKp+pmNk3pNs14l+Hx+HgVTBtKBteXPPMq4myLOzDb9f1l2ZppdMZAKlM/YWVee4sSxqAp+/GFbbrdP6fCbH4voUJpaeJxXkrd17sKJUzpKtyN7HyKv7DlquVopdY= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; barsoom.hamartun.priv.no DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=hamartun.priv.no; s=20200727; t=1637835975; bh=FKGr7M2uw3ULwlvuPcOMbIrSmEC/Gpl2gRJhepcbAXY=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=YgJ2JG4XbJEivjYPleza0JVVTAAu7ub68VlXrFi+mECd0x/fKVe7ly3TNmit+idMy kbgMMIPbmNmldzz5xhBr8mYMXa8VaFvENcBaMLKBVcIElBkUlzO8ZdfS1hDdqbbUNi VUg/dG+fzv3oBMTJ6W3p6nsUAi3s8WCsOvvxyodYQ84ISmjg5+Q8gt7fq/ggiUCm8/ 4XI1t79hj6z4ZXQm7RmqvPbHLRGXXji5kvpF6Tq8dEXrgTJ+M5dRhaUIcOcgehbQ/0 QAA9lg9zN9bArhQ6VTSyQCOVLrUv0CakN57MyG7INLVN7xhf7HfIgQW9QGQDAra7qC pSuowij9X1K9Q== Received: by thuvia.hamartun.priv.no (Postfix, from userid 501) id A8EAD4DF20; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 11:26:14 +0100 (CET) To: Larry McVoy References: <530A0404-0542-404F-9E77-484AA2E678C5@cfcl.com> <20211124184040.GS3889@mcvoy.com> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2021 11:26:14 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20211124184040.GS3889@mcvoy.com> (Larry McVoy's message of "Wed, 24 Nov 2021 10:40:40 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [TUHS] Book Recommendation X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via TUHS Reply-To: Tom Ivar Helbekkmo Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Larry McVoy writes: > SMIT - just say no. I remember it being useful for one thing: when I was unsure of the correct way to do some AIX specific operation, I could enter SMIT, get to where it was ready to do it for me, and it would show me the command line it was about to run. Then I could reread the man page for that command, knowing which options and parameters SMIT would use. So as a learning tool it wasn't all bad. -tih -- Most people who graduate with CS degrees don't understand the significance of Lisp. Lisp is the most important idea in computer science. --Alan Kay