From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 30146 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2022 21:36:20 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 3 Jun 2022 21:36:20 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3739540CC1; Sat, 4 Jun 2022 07:36:17 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuhs.org; s=dkim; t=1654292177; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-owner:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=7bx7u/48GIoTMa9q2gLRcyE5mNfM0SzAEp9OFHKMvRk=; b=sceKOhXvY4yrNcCXkfrlTLlqaW1CBhW35hTujRbKX4dKDaSMKfFAWV8hxr8ydi1XQDTEHE j3f2Z51BcrfPg3WbMHfO6bkHQU8VOFpYmINbWHqRdp/cgdn+0JNGKVBdy1FD98gqt8R8FW vCExxnEdCWI7wSS31qdvsM0d4xhxBuc= Received: from barsoom.hamartun.priv.no (barsoom.hamartun.priv.no [193.71.27.8]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32F4340CC0 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2022 07:36:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: from thuvia.hamartun.priv.no (thuvia.hamartun.priv.no [193.71.27.7]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by barsoom.hamartun.priv.no (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4LFGQv4XkCzG2gM; Fri, 3 Jun 2022 23:36:07 +0200 (CEST) Authentication-Results: barsoom.hamartun.priv.no; arc=none smtp.remote-ip=193.71.27.7 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=hamartun.priv.no; s=barsoom; t=1654292168; cv=none; b=j2+hocH1Dwymc9EK7MZBsXSbBhXr4kUDtL6UeYHNS5GVJ5+Fuffb16rctx/p8uMZInaF/CdjBDi1pgoOnWKKcxj7mvdCTzuexUrBqcgOWsQZnkGIw/f7keK/9HII+HjkKZAZlG1PyXj+LbZu6R+0SJPRhsgoLI1CqvCNP+h9Dek= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=hamartun.priv.no; s=barsoom; t=1654292168; c=relaxed/simple; bh=m5Sy4oC/fjTcfr6cOBCJYfr1Ue33iI0jP7/blayrnQw=; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date: In-Reply-To:Message-ID:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qn+gjuCOblRow4zTBE0v0BRfGfQC5E/eIHL/CwnlEJgfY2+uawnbF49Ll+081Y+1w6blmCosW87Bqf9WAjw+PfEuvJ4SFE2HMnjbFkY3jji8GCBcWblesi5ITKKusIOeOZZTJfVYxwvEk2MVd5SzyWI1Q8FOtvlwSdUpf9E4gps= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; barsoom.hamartun.priv.no DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hamartun.priv.no; s=20200727; t=1654292167; bh=7bx7u/48GIoTMa9q2gLRcyE5mNfM0SzAEp9OFHKMvRk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=rqdlzg9L719+v8KaLik9JaIN/RQoxTJYNQFVh7J+SWWFZiF2IpeFYqG8XnznNPR7W qunVo/mQ00iIojADPT/vWI74TTMt5AnL6s7B4FApCPwDkkmifWvedZ5rwr4RVgkC68 k3kvkkLIXTneoSbLyZITO5NHP8UT1G1zOX6jtNy2Fv7NM5fpc8mzkt612IS8ozlVaL uBVRojh0q6Y9itGR/pFbOOSi919lAq9jJ1WUSHHNliHiQgPC1ajq3sMCYTLTqOr28R DfaKhSlUfBq9pz4Ow+vugt42O6c8t4kV9+pTHm9GjpUchlF0krHdpKasNbR27J4j/n Y6Bsd6KWj/rwQ== Received: by thuvia.hamartun.priv.no (Postfix, from userid 501) id 693C84DF27; Fri, 3 Jun 2022 23:36:07 +0200 (CEST) To: Larry McVoy References: <20220603202330.f4spdxyn34uiyy5v@illithid> <20220603213215.GO10240@mcvoy.com> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2022 23:36:07 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20220603213215.GO10240@mcvoy.com> (Larry McVoy's message of "Fri, 3 Jun 2022 14:32:15 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Message-ID-Hash: 3TNPI5HK2JVP47EFQFHHYMAEE4ZE3EAD X-Message-ID-Hash: 3TNPI5HK2JVP47EFQFHHYMAEE4ZE3EAD X-MailFrom: tih@hamartun.priv.no X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Fwd: [simh] Announcing the Open SIMH project List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via TUHS Reply-To: Tom Ivar Helbekkmo X-Spam: Yes Larry McVoy writes: > BSD would have won if there was a Linus for BSD. There was not so you > got all this replicated effort, the BSD community effectively divided > and conquered themselves. I do not agree. Linux won because BSD was embroiled in litigation. -tih -- Most people who graduate with CS degrees don't understand the significance of Lisp. Lisp is the most important idea in computer science. --Alan Kay