From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 11400 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2021 18:13:23 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 29 Mar 2021 18:13:23 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 2F5E19C82E; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 04:13:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9009C82B; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 04:12:49 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; secure) header.d=hamartun.priv.no header.i=@hamartun.priv.no header.b="lEqeIHfD"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 1D23D9C829; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 04:12:45 +1000 (AEST) Received: from barsoom.hamartun.priv.no (barsoom.hamartun.priv.no [193.71.27.8]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3017E9C829 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 04:12:42 +1000 (AEST) Received: from thuvia.hamartun.priv.no (thuvia.hamartun.priv.no [IPv6:2001:8c0:c904:10::7]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by barsoom.hamartun.priv.no (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F8LK247QqzG2fC for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 20:12:38 +0200 (CEST) Authentication-Results: barsoom.hamartun.priv.no; arc=none smtp.remote-ip=2001:8c0:c904:10::7 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=hamartun.priv.no; s=barsoom; t=1617041558; cv=none; b=qbJZ9yj4bTPmHA7xaW1I/GgvNGTBpPeABdw/B0ffBsJMWqWZIdtdyUOhEkAZxgFSsfyKY0wflkDKgJlLMDFkvqGeXuGHzifVgX2u8a29pWYjAKgcYsdnt19WsJymq03OgnVkHDz/AV1J0TGn0i7PUTb83zoWppfoex5d3+85gus= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=hamartun.priv.no; s=barsoom; t=1617041558; c=relaxed/simple; bh=P6+IW76IoKgTPS56lSlvxV1Bzi+L2ARnzJrMOYpc55Y=; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References: User-Agent:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TxgenWjncUXjq3uZrSJqJqBV5J7tFNtBsSFdMqUg/R4rQMo1Azk6E8xtGH6agnhnA86y3WxnDVgFilVTFQ88o7AN8kWVhEuxxc7hJ7niYREEs4iqjyFx5ev4gzYfhl/sqkMNpF6tLZqnD4qfXy8PMcvBuwTs+WLc9yzvY19jSTA= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; barsoom.hamartun.priv.no DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=hamartun.priv.no; s=20200727; t=1617041558; bh=P6+IW76IoKgTPS56lSlvxV1Bzi+L2ARnzJrMOYpc55Y=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=lEqeIHfDMJzQXEOFrPqBZdKqSZ3+Mn/UDPEjiOTQsHPIWSC6eamRhEW4kFo2hEBKA fFPVYvnukuVus/rZDI/U7I5OSytRTfoCjMNaiGyeTCBdQ+Hda7pg870dA0KCz681k/ g0m2lUFynu4Au5zbK3UeStYjQo86POMqW5AHgaZA6beShOrdQC+/IENkZjMYRC49Em Vt0OsDGxjLqVe+xSW9Fp8XT673LlL66Dqr/2mHj/UHzJa+Pog4hh0gmPGSZWyCneOn hK2d7c7dUAALWtSFarjgTurfj1dFF+n7fa6KhDdV40FNcCV9bdr7s/6/5PgyQs004B 3ev08RwTWLYhA== Received: by thuvia.hamartun.priv.no (Postfix, from userid 501) id 946954DF00; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 20:12:37 +0200 (CEST) To: TUHS main list In-Reply-To: (Clem Cole's message of "Mon, 29 Mar 2021 11:37:57 -0400") References: <20210329143449.GA28080@mcvoy.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (berkeley-unix) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 20:12:37 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [TUHS] Remember the ed thread? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via TUHS Reply-To: Tom Ivar Helbekkmo Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Clem Cole writes: > That said, as one of those 'grey beards,' can I recommend that you > stop, and go to a technical library or bookstore and find yourself a > copy of Rob and Brian's wonderful book: "*The Unix Programming > Environment*" (*a.k.a* "UPE" or ISBN 0-13-937699-2) *then do the > exercises*. That is a great book - I'd been a Unix sysadmin for more than a decade when I got it, and I learned a lot of new stuff from it. Twenty years later, that book is still among my favorites, along with their newer joint effort, "The Practice of Programming". Then there's the AWK book, of course, and just about anything else with Brian Kernighan's name on it. It's like with Date on database systems, or Stevens on networking; you just know it's going to be good. -tih -- Most people who graduate with CS degrees don't understand the significance of Lisp. Lisp is the most important idea in computer science. --Alan Kay