From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 17910 invoked from network); 22 May 2020 09:02:36 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 22 May 2020 09:02:36 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 29F479C917; Fri, 22 May 2020 19:02:29 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138309C5E8; Fri, 22 May 2020 19:02:02 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; secure) header.d=hamartun.priv.no header.i=@hamartun.priv.no header.b="oTP9PGRo"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id DBD639C5E8; Fri, 22 May 2020 19:01:59 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 536 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Fri, 22 May 2020 19:01:58 AEST Received: from barsoom.hamartun.priv.no (barsoom.hamartun.priv.no [193.71.27.8]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18DEF9C5E5 for ; Fri, 22 May 2020 19:01:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: from thuvia.hamartun.priv.no (thuvia.hamartun.priv.no [193.71.27.7]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by barsoom.hamartun.priv.no (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3FFDD1C714E; Fri, 22 May 2020 10:52:58 +0200 (CEST) Authentication-Results: barsoom.hamartun.priv.no; arc=none smtp.remote-ip=193.71.27.7 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=hamartun.priv.no; s=barsoom; t=1590137578; cv=none; b=GCiLTmie3s8yWnl291DTn50ztO5E4of1xwL25KWc6IBDVYwq322CV3/qLpyiZufMPEDwnOjyxIRVvz0GMJfD/B0q1nG04czcYZ9avk8Rp0YFo9QTeOKD7uPyUUeC36HLfer7Qh0VdRPj6x5DglJVqTGcSeurYd9Esdb4dQA/7Yk= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=hamartun.priv.no; s=barsoom; t=1590137578; c=relaxed/simple; bh=2p8rSgTdJLpSUhI4HnQ6qMn0j4bisz4fkW122HaF0xQ=; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date: In-Reply-To:Message-ID:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YwxBaNN5qICg+bPond6JKAcpeXCp8VXg87YfM9vURJIkPGmwcy0eFXcJ4nUnhI3Rt/SM+S9W/dftwLpdOwna7k/tqryBdQ3oJfLqMACPo7M1+1XB1XrkHj1VX7IUCU7dxU1ufGffpSWqirYuVbSt+cB90i6wYSrki9ZvlwPVqkU= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; barsoom.hamartun.priv.no DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=hamartun.priv.no; s=barsoom; t=1590137578; bh=2p8rSgTdJLpSUhI4HnQ6qMn0j4bisz4fkW122HaF0xQ=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=oTP9PGRoTlsWRB1abJej6mn6VkI9Mj/Y9WeQgp4jPIAJKpNHGgrADkZ6wP0wLfetN z0y6fT5IZivkGSaX8NI0Ekx7dqBrQs0L2lf7HXa6lXVQH/HQ1LIyBhlOZTJyxEFgDw Tc0O8gPjZLFoVeP2nbucyhZerBzULrJsYbUyRvlQ= Received: by thuvia.hamartun.priv.no (Postfix, from userid 501) id 12E594DED2; Fri, 22 May 2020 10:52:57 +0200 (CEST) To: Noel Chiappa References: <20200521182817.08C0318C093@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 22 May 2020 10:52:56 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20200521182817.08C0318C093@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> (Noel Chiappa's message of "Thu, 21 May 2020 14:28:17 -0400 (EDT)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [TUHS] History of popularity of C X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via TUHS Reply-To: Tom Ivar Helbekkmo Cc: TUHS@tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Noel Chiappa writes: > I suspect the real reason for C's sucess was the nature of the language. > When I first saw it (ca. 1976), it struck me as a quantum improvement over > its contemporaries. Paul Graham expressed it like this: "It seems to me that there have been two really clean, consistent models of programming so far: the C model and the Lisp model. These two seem points of high ground, with swampy lowlands between them." -tih -- Most people who graduate with CS degrees don't understand the significance of Lisp. Lisp is the most important idea in computer science. --Alan Kay