From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 28323 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2022 21:21:13 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 3 Jun 2022 21:21:13 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AEEA40CAC; Sat, 4 Jun 2022 07:21:09 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuhs.org; s=dkim; t=1654291269; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-owner:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=KiQOkHOu1HjyDB2j6yG9DMD41gVCcbEQ720xiDH5zKQ=; b=iNTb4TroVBWb2kF2ARK8XwaANzUkd6bh3TiheXfifu2qcvNcQSUZXLc0jHVo0pigKrEIQn Gkq6+/odfx3IbP4MUu4FRyoNRKzhVh4/wDvz8Z6QZjcdniz7xLgbPCp6AmIcoiPv4E4m5F 0XiiO7Isxe7JLs7RSal5oXanOUE1klI= Received: from barsoom.hamartun.priv.no (barsoom.hamartun.priv.no [IPv6:2001:8c0:c904:10::8]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25C5440CAA for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2022 07:21:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: from thuvia.hamartun.priv.no (thuvia.hamartun.priv.no [IPv6:2001:8c0:c904:10::7]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by barsoom.hamartun.priv.no (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4LFG5S2dpyzG2gM; Fri, 3 Jun 2022 23:21:00 +0200 (CEST) Authentication-Results: barsoom.hamartun.priv.no; arc=none smtp.remote-ip=2001:8c0:c904:10::7 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=hamartun.priv.no; s=barsoom; t=1654291260; cv=none; b=YdZ/Fp2LYdPTTg0AgICe2ivW1o9XjnihMs7rHr8squy9A89NeTEnflopzGZ3pp52yGw5MjOErSV2Nav97gHh1QAt3jqMtOv2+LSfIb/AAGebKzrivR/9TTn55NxKRlgyF0NysjlbuDIs1bPVhPFRAffPpqdNbcFKyyKyHSkIiK0= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=hamartun.priv.no; s=barsoom; t=1654291260; c=relaxed/simple; bh=eIC9gooAOPcB5PqdzS9JfiCLO5jdA8UbXGXSwYqi3AY=; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date: In-Reply-To:Message-ID:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LZ/KaAPsSM7ZSDPSQp4qA9yKN+BpDkGNlEG4UKdxPh5FbE1P+Dn5FK2XtFYunWxlrT/EeiWEkn4u+L3zXx62KI1aTsq6a8Jn0aeyqQr59+F9sX3bSkfsBY2MIloKJE0tcKqCuwu6HVxuPjhxcPPnX/OkIERbv3Q6axgxvgF1yi8= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; barsoom.hamartun.priv.no DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hamartun.priv.no; s=20200727; t=1654291260; bh=KiQOkHOu1HjyDB2j6yG9DMD41gVCcbEQ720xiDH5zKQ=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Jyp2ZN/jwuJdbGWlaXvQxNqr3fIS0WzRPdz/2/9PtaQmma43nw+dp7v8yN92XCkAG QyQiGumDqkqjerQWdlb+SA8qjnqvfAtH55FjvArEmnStcCUexXfz+rm68XxsEdbmzG mIJys0G3xveJj6n/dBQQNMVjiKwnNxW6TZFLoTEwYf8y65HQOE0WO3Z+BfkFa4XVzY K35Hq8m/SCKktgb+9M6EkxN8GsD5lfxI/Bs1Z0zF7HXGfHz4V9hg311gZLAnpd/j1c iyU+L8iqSPYo+I/MpZdZ8ue7gd+ctn3rDIeMGUWLjQYS13szHUO0ApRYFCQIURLWkW d8hYplOa2prGg== Received: by thuvia.hamartun.priv.no (Postfix, from userid 501) id 012CF4DF27; Fri, 3 Jun 2022 23:20:58 +0200 (CEST) To: Clem Cole References: <20220603202330.f4spdxyn34uiyy5v@illithid> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2022 23:20:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Clem Cole's message of "Fri, 3 Jun 2022 17:06:22 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Message-ID-Hash: JMRNPGCDO4PGJWEITTYQVHTBJXTACVNI X-Message-ID-Hash: JMRNPGCDO4PGJWEITTYQVHTBJXTACVNI X-MailFrom: tih@hamartun.priv.no X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Fwd: [simh] Announcing the Open SIMH project List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via TUHS Reply-To: Tom Ivar Helbekkmo X-Spam: Yes Clem Cole writes: > Some of us on this list remember the original BDSi fight, the 386BSD > to FreeBSD, then NetBSD and OpenBSD (I was friends with both sides of > many of these wars). Irrelevant to the topic, I know, but I'd just like to point out, since you call these things "wars", that NetBSD grew out of 386bsd in a quiet, friendly fashion, and then FreeBSD out of NetBSD just as quietly. (BSDi growing out of 386bsd was a completely separate affair that I know very little about, and the OpenBSD fork from NetBSD was mostly just a personal animosity thing, Theo de Raadt having made enemies in both the NetBSD and FreeBSD camps -- but it has left no bad blood behind it.) In other words, no wars that I know of. That being said, I sincerely wish you all the best working out a solution that can allow the amazingly good simh project to continue! -tih -- Most people who graduate with CS degrees don't understand the significance of Lisp. Lisp is the most important idea in computer science. --Alan Kay