From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: mirian@xensei.com (Mirian Crzig Lennox) Date: 29 Jan 1999 13:04:20 -0500 Subject: low-end vaxen and unix In-Reply-To: "Steven M. Schultz"'s message of "Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:07:22 -0800 (PST)" References: <199901280007.QAA27431@moe.2bsd.com> Message-ID: How well can the so-called "desktop vaxen" run 4.3 BSD? I'm thinking about systems like the MicroVAX 2000, etc. I'd like to set up a system to run some sort of 4.3 system (maybe Michael Sokolov's Quasijarus distribution) and I've noticed the occasional desktop vax show up in places like eBay. Is it possible to avoid the hernia and use one of these "2nd floor apartment-friendly" computers? --Mirian Received: (from major at localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA16845 for pups-liszt; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 05:45:58 +1100 (EST) Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA16840 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 05:45:48 +1100 (EST) From: allisonp@world.std.com Received: from world.std.com [world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]] by europe.std.com (8.7.6/BZS-8-1.0) id NAA18675; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 13:45:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by world.std.com (TheWorld/Spike-2.0) id AA22069; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 13:45:43 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 13:45:43 -0500 (EST) To: pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Subject: Re: low-end vaxen and unix In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Precedence: bulk On 29 Jan 1999, Mirian Crzig Lennox wrote: > How well can the so-called "desktop vaxen" run 4.3 BSD? I'm thinking > about systems like the MicroVAX 2000, etc. I'd like to set up a > system to run some sort of 4.3 system (maybe Michael Sokolov's > Quasijarus distribution) and I've noticed the occasional desktop vax > show up in places like eBay. Is it possible to avoid the hernia and > use one of these "2nd floor apartment-friendly" computers? These are of the same or similar performance level as MicrovaxIIs and do run Ultrix(DEC version of BSD) fairly well. The problems you will have is that the largest internal disk is a RD54 (159mb) and hard to find. You can also add an external RD54 if you can find the box and cables for it. Performance as a single user system is acceptable. Note that VAXstation3100, Microvax3100 system are also of the same class but off 3-10+ times the performance in a 4x18x16 inch case and they have SCSI interface to disks allowing for much more common and larger disks. I can't speak for anything else. I generally run VMS on vaxen. Allison Received: (from major at localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA16910 for pups-liszt; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 06:09:12 +1100 (EST) Received: from eclipse.scl.cwru.edu (eclipse.SCL.CWRU.Edu [129.22.32.56]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA16905 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 06:09:02 +1100 (EST) Received: (from smap at localhost) by eclipse.scl.cwru.edu (8.8.8/adam2.2) id OAA18653 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 14:08:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from (k2.scl.cwru.edu [129.22.32.50]) by eclipse via smap (V2.0) id xma018651; Fri, 29 Jan 99 14:08:52 -0500 Received: by k2.cwru.edu (8.6.12/SMI-SVR4) id OAA05655; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 14:13:02 -0500 Received: from (skybridge.scl.cwru.edu [129.22.32.1]) by k2.scl.cwru.edu via smap (V2.0) id xma005652; Fri, 29 Jan 99 19:12:59 GMT Received: by skybridge.scl.cwru.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA04691; Fri, 29 Jan 1999 14:22:49 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 14:22:49 -0500 From: mxs46@k2.scl.cwru.edu (Michael Sokolov) Message-Id: <199901291922.OAA04691 at skybridge.scl.cwru.edu> To: pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Subject: Re: low-end vaxen and unix Sender: owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Precedence: bulk Mirian Crzig Lennox wrote: > How well can the so-called "desktop vaxen" run 4.3 BSD? I'm thinking > about systems like the MicroVAX 2000, etc. I'd like to set up a > system to run some sort of 4.3 system (maybe Michael Sokolov's > Quasijarus distribution) and I've noticed the occasional desktop vax > show up in places like eBay. Is it possible to avoid the hernia and > use one of these "2nd floor apartment-friendly" computers? Subscribe to the Quasijarus mailing list using standard Majordomo commands and post your question there. I'll answer it. Michael Sokolov TUHS 4BSD Coordinator 4.3BSD-* Maintainer Quasijarus Project Principal Architect & Developer Phone: 440-449-0299 or 216-217-2579 ARPA Internet SMTP mail: mxs46 at k2.scl.cwru.edu TUHS WWW page: http://minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au/TUHS/ Quasijarus WWW page: http://minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au/Quasijarus/