From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2016 22:42:01 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: "Cuckoo's Egg", by Cliff Stoll, and his accounts of that whole business are interesting. Incidentally that's the book that hatched my interests in things UNIX. And as it happens, I constantly, perhaps every couple of months read it. Dennis, did you see my message on when a GUI was first available with UNIX? If so, please contact me off-list. Or even on-list. ------------------- Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon at worldnet.att.net ------------------------------------------------------------ "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi "Use the Force, Luke."� Obi-Wan Kenobi (This company dedicates this E-Mail to General Obi-Wan Kenobi ) (This company dedicates this E-Mail to Master Yoda ) > -----Original Message----- > From: tuhs-admin at minnie.tuhs.org [mailto:tuhs-admin at minnie.tuhs.org] On > Behalf Of Dennis Ritchie > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:41 PM > To: tuhs at minnie.tuhs.org; dmr at plan9.bell-labs.com > Subject: [TUHS] Re: rtm > > Garcia is correct to praise the Hafner/Markoff account > of the worm incident. There were some details about > the kids' accounts and exploits that Markoff decided > to elide; by the time he wrote that chapter he had > become rather sympathetic with the Morris family. > > In 1995 another big incident occurred: the exploitation > of the SYN TCP-connection takeover attack (Mitnick > etc.) Markoff got another front-page NYT story out > of this (and a book with Shimomura). I sent mail > to Markoff at the time of the newspaper coverage reminding > him that RTM had discovered the basic attack > in 1985 (see CSTR 117 at > http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/cstr.html ); > while here during a summer. Markoff replied in part, > > >Interesting how often RTM figures, one way or another, in your front-page > >stories, and of course the [Cyberpunk] book.... > > > > Dennis Ritchie > > yes, this is true. you know i sat there on sunday for about ten minutes and > thought about whether i should include rtm in my story - it would obviously > have spiced it up. i finally decided not to on the grounds that 1. i have > done enough to mythologize him for one decade 2. he is probably entitled > not to be dragged through all this again. i still wonder whether i did the > readers a disservice... > > Incidentally, "RTM Sr." was (while here) "rhm" by login name, > and always called Bob; I don't think he actually has a middle name (at least > I don't know it.) I think it's like Harry S Truman. RTM > is called Robert, and never used Jr. > > About > > > [Bob] Morris, he said, was the kind of guy who always liked to tinker with > > things, and if an object had buttons, Morris just had to push them. > > In fact, sometimes Morris was just a little too quick with his fingers. > > On one side of a machine room was the light switch, and on the other > > side was the power to the machine. > > > On at least one occasion, you guessed it -- Morris hit the wrong switch. > > Some people hung a disk pack that got ruined around his neck, and someone > > put up a big sign as a reminder: "THIS IS THE WEST WALL!" > > I suspect that we may be dealing with the "Schryer filter" regarding > some of the details. Norm S. was right about Bob's being > an aggressive investigator and fiddler, but I don't > connect the west-wall sign with Morris in particular, but my > memory could be failing too. Norman Wilson > might have been around for advent of the sign. > In the event, it had more to do with circuit breakers > labelled in small print "east wall" and "west wall" > and someone choosing the wrong one. > > Dennis > > _______________________________________________ > TUHS mailing list > TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org > http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs