From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 7515 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2022 23:53:02 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 8 Aug 2022 23:53:02 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C340A406DE; Tue, 9 Aug 2022 09:52:25 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuhs.org; s=dkim; t=1660002745; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-help: list-owner:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=HEOsOKInIbj5/lHZrWqaNID8KzdM729jGZzXJQ78dtE=; b=XB73PB6aJACyT7KN+sURcUBNYe+aZLAqLJmYAd7Qmkl5aA+n7Z4XWZ+FLLDeABanZA1QgB Hab8TOsmu1jM2roGc4TMgrId6KpnMm61uGHurB2qE9pikmCn0YZLEu3iK3V7b9+gAfADU4 /mnu+oZ9O5jhWSa+joooA8+ePGUM4xo= Received: from mail-4318.protonmail.ch (mail-4318.protonmail.ch [185.70.43.18]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA74740154 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2022 09:52:18 +1000 (AEST) Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2022 23:52:00 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1660002736; x=1660261936; bh=HEOsOKInIbj5/lHZrWqaNID8KzdM729jGZzXJQ78dtE=; h=Date:To:From:Reply-To:Subject:Message-ID:Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc: Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID:Message-ID; b=xwOcIRbX511LrIFzHVBBsOY563YqmZKjUcbL7aQc/09tbcM1bFkXK7xUMxXvmCUUY eDj95hOvz3rmVZdNaga5aLf2DpRIjiUGVjpDj88/wZR5I56yd2Nb9xMcZHgjZC+CqP IPPzBkO5CVROw1xnZnWxkoeKv6mcNKrs+7pDBfNXjfhoG8463Kvp0++bWsVPSjodqh 5wP8kOQpndMeU703Fh4wkCsMsQvM0TJ/CaZvqydyuScT39XEJDfiul59Azxi7fP8Ad /TAhF593oWO6vsQGR/I/ogvpG/QGjYWN19qJWVMDDa6OsEwsPL3IPksauMnvif2Dkb 7lObrJ/KpzCvQ== To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Message-ID: Feedback-ID: 35591162:user:proton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: MPNZ5DA4LJRHESK42MOQHNI4D6TX5JXM X-Message-ID-Hash: MPNZ5DA4LJRHESK42MOQHNI4D6TX5JXM X-MailFrom: segaloco@protonmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Documents for UNIX Collections List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: segaloco via TUHS Reply-To: segaloco I didn't expect to have more documents to share this soon, but I've just se= cured a trove of early System V/5.0 documents, as listed: System V User's Manual System V Administrator's Manual System V Error Message Manual System V Transition Aids System V Release Description User's Guide Operator's Guide Administrator's Guide Programming Guide Graphics Guide Support Tools Guide Document Processing Guide The System V-prefixed ones are very specifically labeled System V, although= I know at least of the User's and Administrator's Manuals with "Release 5.= 0" branding out in the wild as well. I've got two of the User's Manuals ex= hibiting this difference. I believe I've seen a scan of the Admin's Manual= with 5.0 as well, but I would have to go searching for it, it's on bitsave= rs perhaps? In any case, this is the documentation series for the initial = releases of System V, the ones with "UNIX System" in big letters with grid = patterns fading out into the background. I don't know if the second set is= considered part of the Release 5.0 or System V version of the document pac= kage, or if they made that distinction, but as of present I can positively = identify the first 5 as being specifically for the System V version of this= release. What is particularly curious is there are documents displaying "= System V" but with a Western Electric logo on the front. I've seen a scan = of a System V gold User's Manual with the logo removed and a disclaimer on = the front page explaining that they can't use the Bell logo anymore due to = the divestiture, likewise on bitsavers I'm pretty sure, so this may establi= sh that there were at least three revisions: Release 5.0, System V pre-dive= stiture, and System V post-divestiture. Now for a little plug, just because she's been so incredibly helpful, I bou= ght these from Leslie (last name unknown) known as "oldmaddogshop" on eBay.= We got chatting for a little while and her husband was a computing profes= sor at the University of Portland for some time as it sounds, and they're c= urrently starting to go through the decades of literature and hardware he's= picked up over the years for sale on eBay and perhaps other avenues. She = very specifically mentioned a PDP-8 that he happens to have that he's hopin= g they can coordinate to donate to a museum or some other way to get it int= o a relatively publicly accessible space rather than winding up in the clos= et of a private collector. I told her I'd drop a brief mention in letting = folks know about the documents in case they'd want the option of perusing s= ome of what they're going to be offloading. She made mention of a stack of= USENIX manuals as well, I have a smattering of 4.2 and 4.3 manuals already= , so someone may be lucky enough to snag those soon enough. Up currently a= re an early SVID and some OSF/Motif stuff, but she said they've got plenty = of boxes of books to go through. Anywho, once I receive these documents, I plan on starting the scanning pro= cess much like with the UNIX/TS 4.0 stuff, and will be in touch with Warren= concerning hosting and a release as time goes on. One bit of input if any= one knows, does the above list represent (aside from Release 5.0 variants) = the complete documentation package for System V gold? I can't say I've com= e across any other titles, and most certainly haven't seen PDFs of anything= that isn't included here, but I see plenty of titles I've never seen scann= ed. If nothing else, I'm hoping that "Release Description" document may ha= ve a brief flyover of the published materials, akin to the list of books at= the beginning of the SVR4 manuals or the documentation roadmaps of earlier= UNIX/TS and PWB releases. - Matt G.