From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 24958 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2022 10:57:32 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 9 Nov 2022 10:57:32 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E55241DC4; Wed, 9 Nov 2022 20:57:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: from anduin.eldar.org (anduin.eldar.org [24.106.248.90]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B6E4409F4 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2022 20:57:14 +1000 (AEST) Received: from anduin.eldar.org (IDENT:brad@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by anduin.eldar.org (8.15.2/8.13.8) with ESMTPS id 2A9Athqb025109 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 9 Nov 2022 05:55:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from brad@localhost) by anduin.eldar.org (8.15.2/8.13.8/Submit) id 2A9Atg0T003238; Wed, 9 Nov 2022 05:55:42 -0500 (EST) From: Brad Spencer To: steve jenkin In-Reply-To: <29942374-F162-43EE-9F65-D51C79B4D7B4@canb.auug.org.au> (message from steve jenkin on Wed, 9 Nov 2022 20:01:25 +1100) Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2022 05:55:42 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (anduin.eldar.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 09 Nov 2022 05:55:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID-Hash: 3ICPRYC32MA2XXKTJOQSDEGN2YUW4B52 X-Message-ID-Hash: 3ICPRYC32MA2XXKTJOQSDEGN2YUW4B52 X-MailFrom: brad@anduin.eldar.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: marc.donner@gmail.com, tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: LOC [was Re: Re: Re.: Princeton's "Unix: An Oral History": who was in the team in "The Attic"? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: steve jenkin writes: [snip] > SRE roles & as a discipline has developed, alongside DevOps, into managin= g & fault finding in large clusters of physical and virtual machines. > > Never done it myself, but it=E2=80=99d seem the potential for screw-ups i= s now infinite and unlimited in time :) My final $DAYJOB was more DevOps / SRE than system admin which I had been doing for a long time. And, Very Much Yes, the "potential for screw-ups" is very much infinite. It seems like that there are a lot of people messing in areas that they are ill prepared to deal with and tend to do it poorly at times. Very often they will invent structure that is just a reinvention of something that already exists because they lack the background to know what was really available. > -- > Steve Jenkin, IT Systems and Design=20 > 0412 786 915 (+61 412 786 915) > PO Box 38, Kippax ACT 2615, AUSTRALIA > > mailto:sjenkin@canb.auug.org.au http://members.tip.net.au/~sjenkin --=20 Brad Spencer - brad@anduin.eldar.org - KC8VKS - http://anduin.eldar.org