From: brad@anduin.eldar.org (Brad Spencer)
Subject: [TUHS] Release of 8th, 9th and 10th Editions Unix
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 16:51:02 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <xon7f39qg5l.fsf@anduin.eldar.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170328181915.GC20717@mcvoy.com> (message from Larry McVoy on Tue, 28 Mar 2017 11:19:15 -0700)
Larry McVoy <lm at mcvoy.com> writes:
> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 02:02:06PM -0400, Brad Spencer wrote:
>> Larry McVoy <lm at mcvoy.com> writes:
>>
>> >> My understanding is that the 3/50 is indeed some sort of VME system, as
>> >> is the 4/110, with some address related oddities. But it has been a
>> >> very long time since I booted a 3/50 up... The 3/50 I have are in their
>> >> cases, I just opened them up for the pictures.
>> >
>> > Hmm, so the 4/110 being VME is for sure correct, I had one of those when
>> > I was at Sun. The 3/50, I just don't think it was VME. I believe they
>> > made a version that was a single VME board but so far as I know that was
>> > a different beast. I could be wrong, I googled a bit and couldn't figure
>> > it out.
>> >
>> > What I know for sure is, unlike a 4/110, you couldn't open up the case
>> > and shove more VME stuff in there. If the 3/50 was a VME board I'm not
>> > sure what the point was other than, perhaps, to reuse the same part in
>> > a small case. I can't see Andy doing that, he was super cost sensitive.
>>
>>
>> I think that the 3/50 was a "single board" VME system... and as you say
>> you really couldn't add anything to it. I will pull one out and get
>> some close up shots of the connectors and perhaps the answer can be
>> determined by physical inspection. I also looked at the config file for
>> NetBSD for the sun3 and it very much mentions vme all over the place,
>> but that may not have applied to the 3/50. Is it possible that just VME
>> connector was used for power and the like... but nothing else??
>
> That actually rings a bell, could be.
>
> I think it was 3/110 that had the same case/bus as the 4/110. Less sure
> about that, I'm not sure I've ever used a 3/110. Got a lot of miles on
> a 4/110, did a ton of UFS work on that machine.
I took some more pictures. The connector on the 3/50 is certainly VME.
http://anduin.eldar.org/~brad/sunstuff/Item_7B_board_connector.jpg
- the 3/50 without the memory expansion board, close up of the board
connector.
http://anduin.eldar.org/~brad/sunstuff/Item_7B_case_connector.jpg
- a very bad shot of the case that the 3/50 board goes into
http://anduin.eldar.org/~brad/sunstuff/Item_8_board_closeup.jpg
- a closer picture of the 4/110. Note the three connectors.
http://anduin.eldar.org/~brad/sunstuff/Item_8_case_connectors.jpg
- the inside of the 4/110 case
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Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-27 20:24 Warren Toomey
2017-03-27 15:43 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-03-28 2:13 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-28 2:14 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-03-28 8:03 ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-28 8:21 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-03-28 12:26 ` Brad Spencer
2017-03-28 14:38 ` Álvaro Jurado
2017-03-29 2:57 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2017-03-28 15:23 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-28 15:27 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-28 15:38 ` Dan Cross
2017-03-28 15:41 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-28 17:30 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-28 17:36 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-28 15:46 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-28 16:18 ` ron minnich
2017-03-28 17:00 ` Brad Spencer
2017-03-28 17:42 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-28 18:02 ` Brad Spencer
2017-03-28 18:19 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-28 20:51 ` Brad Spencer [this message]
2017-03-29 8:22 ` George Ross
2017-03-29 9:38 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-03-30 3:17 ` Warner Losh
2017-03-29 6:55 ` Peter Jeremy
2017-03-29 8:51 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-03-28 17:51 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-03-27 20:28 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-27 20:43 ` Warren Toomey
2017-03-27 22:18 ` Kurt H Maier
2017-03-28 2:41 ` arnold
2017-03-28 5:42 ` arnold
2017-03-28 7:07 ` SPC
2017-03-28 7:30 ` Hellwig Geisse
2017-03-28 11:38 ` Derek Fawcus
2017-03-28 15:36 ` Christian Neukirchen
2017-03-28 17:28 ` Steve Simon
2017-03-28 18:19 ` arnold
2017-03-27 21:07 ` Warner Losh
2017-03-27 21:11 ` Warner Losh
2017-03-27 21:51 ` Warren Toomey
2017-03-27 21:45 ` Nemo
2017-03-27 22:22 ` Grant Taylor
2017-03-28 2:17 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-03-28 7:43 ` David du Colombier
2017-03-28 8:04 ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-28 18:07 ` Tim Newsham
2017-03-28 19:54 ` Kurt H Maier
2017-03-30 19:43 Norman Wilson
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