From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 13209 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2022 01:13:41 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 2 Feb 2022 01:13:41 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id AB0399D6EB; Wed, 2 Feb 2022 11:13:39 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E22D9B9F3; Wed, 2 Feb 2022 11:13:29 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 4FE9A9B9F3; Wed, 2 Feb 2022 11:13:27 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 1758 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2022 11:13:25 AEST Received: from anduin.eldar.org (anduin.eldar.org [24.106.248.90]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE94E9B95E for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2022 11:13:25 +1000 (AEST) Received: from anduin.eldar.org (IDENT:brad@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by anduin.eldar.org (8.15.2/8.13.8) with ESMTPS id 2120i0va029580 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 1 Feb 2022 19:44:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from brad@localhost) by anduin.eldar.org (8.15.2/8.13.8/Submit) id 2120i0RT023973; Tue, 1 Feb 2022 19:44:00 -0500 (EST) From: Brad Spencer To: Clem Cole In-Reply-To: (message from Clem Cole on Tue, 1 Feb 2022 19:22:07 -0500) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2022 19:43:59 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (anduin.eldar.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 01 Feb 2022 19:44:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [TUHS] BSD 4.1, 4.1x, Quasijarus, and 4.3x X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Clem Cole writes: [snip] >> Well, no. Both OpenBSD and NetBSD ported back to the VAX, but the OpenBSD >> effort has ended due to lack of hardware and interest. It appears that >> NetBSD is still being actively developed on the VAX, however, so it's >> possible to get a "modern" 4.4BSD derived system on that architecture. >> > Right - either current NetBSD or the Ultrix 4.5 is what I would do. If > NetBSD will run the Ultrix layered products, that would be the system with > the most; but I'm not sure if that will work. Ultrix for instance > supports DEC (VMS) FTN - which I know you (Will) have been messing with. > That is the best (most complete) FTN for Vaxen. I believe there is Ada, > PL/1 and maybe even Basic2 and Cobol/RPG [I think most of not all of the > VMS languages for the VAX were released on Ultrix but frankly, I don't > remember]. [snip] NetBSD has a compat_ultrix that can be enabled for NetBSD/vax (and pmax / mips) that might allow some of those products to work. The man page for it does not mention any of that specifically and does say that there are a few limits to it. https://man.netbsd.org/compat_ultrix.8 -- Brad Spencer - brad@anduin.eldar.org - KC8VKS - http://anduin.eldar.org