From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 20965 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2022 01:33:43 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 12 Aug 2022 01:33:43 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB65F40146; Fri, 12 Aug 2022 11:33:35 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuhs.org; s=dkim; t=1660268015; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-help: list-owner:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=Dm8qd8Otzy27Njs5QZQl3QdiWE0xBfMTB3T/nOmT+r4=; b=LoJyP8qUOf1oFIXbLAOolDVJQG86hb6ruCrsrKs2dzf+LhwLiovnxlETDcjBwJWycisSy4 bm++LtzM8bweHnzFdjecI6Cv0HnS90JH2gS1kAMWbkY7B/xJhA6IMAu387f0uqueg6FuUM 83UVJldtsv8ov76f+fbI9df8W8j7Mus= Received: from mail-4319.protonmail.ch (mail-4319.protonmail.ch [185.70.43.19]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BD1D40011 for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2022 11:33:27 +1000 (AEST) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 01:33:12 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1660268004; x=1660527204; bh=Dm8qd8Otzy27Njs5QZQl3QdiWE0xBfMTB3T/nOmT+r4=; h=Date:To:From:Reply-To:Subject:Message-ID:Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc: Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID:Message-ID; b=kEb0J9xmCb84hIl0LcZybIjvjTWHgOiRT9Ut3NRKo5Z0vvMxM7dIxZJBc/kYx5/rl ta7FYtfhpODcSaL4ux1Qc++YaVsgO/lsKQx4sLdzLagGgg5YqSf4IF+k998efhwVAu Y+TPrQv1TeQxJb0WY3IcbZbpsPyUEDGl022ZkV9NC7KkO/14pQn4ChMcPWbqwyPc2T Z8rHVXXRJXPEKDiqdgZiU5Kbed2k3pL1xXvAojWsQW3ZuzuErYS276NHjF+DllKRSs 8XxAO5OCnPRuNIiQf4BLELXaw8CeZhNysZrbkQADmaitzZHGc5syE/OS4OCkg3+iMl O9pO8x6xCtwhA== To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Message-ID: Feedback-ID: 35591162:user:proton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: 7GXVIYPKST7MOK27IGTW6J7XHAXC57HJ X-Message-ID-Hash: 7GXVIYPKST7MOK27IGTW6J7XHAXC57HJ X-MailFrom: segaloco@protonmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Documents for UNIX Collections List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: segaloco via TUHS Reply-To: segaloco And I've received the documents! This is a pastebin with the rough content= s of the documentation package. https://pastebin.com/jAqqBXA4 Now for some analysis: The User's Manual is branded System V but also displays a Western Electric = Bell logo. I've seen Release 5.0 manuals displaying the Bell logo and Syst= em V manuals without, but never a System V with. That implies the publicat= ion of the manual had to change a few times, one to switch from internal Re= lease 5.0 to commercial System V and another time to remove the Bell logo d= ue to divestiture. I would have to wonder if similar transition can be see= n with different revisions of these documents? The Release Description manual has a list of System V relevant documents an= d they all appear to be accounted for here, so this should represent the we= alth of documentation available to a user of System V Gold in 1983. Most documents are traceable to documents in the Unix 4.0 collection. I've= suffixed various documents here with the coordinate to the same in the 4.0= collection. Changes of note: - The System V documentation includes instructions for 3B20S machines as we= ll as the instructions for DEC equipment. PDP-11 and VAX guidance have bee= n combined into a single document. - The System V documentation adds documents concerning an "Auto Call" featu= re. Didn't see this anywhere in 4.0, so should be new circa System V. - This documentation refers to the last version as System III rather than m= aking any mention of 4.0. Given that the specific documents mentioning thi= s are System V-branded, and there are comparable documents that are Release= 5.0 branded, this implies there may be a document floating around out ther= e somewhere equivalent to the Release Description manual but that actually = covers the transition from 4.0 to 5.0. - The documentation package drops the updated CACM paper, likely because it= 's available all sorts of other places. - The summary and documentation roadmap documents appear to have been synth= esized and combined into the Release Description. - Snyder and Mashey's shell tutorial was either dropped or combined with Bo= urne's shell introduction - No evidence of an MM foldout like was distributed with 4.0 (and before, t= here are sources around implying these foldouts started with the PWB group,= may have been printed as early as 1977) - Either the original EQN paper is dropped or relevant bits mashed together= with the user's guide - EFL documentation seems to be dropped, or is merged into one of the other= Fortran documents somewhere down in there. The processor is still in the = man pages though. - ADB documentation seems to be dropped, likewise still in the manuals, lis= ted as DEC only. Since System V seems to treat DEC as PDP-11+VAX, does thi= s imply there was a VAX ADB? My understanding is SDB started on 32V and wa= s *the* debugger for VAX. - Unix Virtual Protocol papers are dropped, they were marked as 3.0 only in= the 4.0 manuals anyhow, so probably not relevant. - The Standalone I/O Library and SASH (Shell) paper is dropped - None of the internals nor security papers seem to have made it, so no Uni= x Implemention, I/O Implementation, PDP and Portable C Compiler Tours, Asse= mbler Manual, PDP-11/23 and 11/34, or Password Security papers. These will likely be a slower burn than the 4.0 documents since I purchased= them myself and am not in a hurry to get them shipped back to someone. Th= at said, if there's anything in the above pastebin that particularly piques= any interest, I can try to move those to the top of the stack and get scan= s done sooner rather than later. I'll also be doing some analysis between = these and the 4.0 docs to try and better determine authorship of various do= cuments, my hope is to have a pretty clear picture of whos work went into e= ach manual by the time I'm done with it all. - Matt G.