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* [ISSUE] Firefox no sound without PulseAudio
@ 2021-12-17 22:26 notramo
  2021-12-18 14:53 ` mvf
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From: notramo @ 2021-12-17 22:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ml

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New issue by notramo on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/34596

Description:
### System

* xuname:  
`Void 5.15.5_1 x86_64-musl GenuineIntel uptodate rFF`
* package:  
`firefox`

### Expected behavior
Firefox can play audio even without PulseAudio.

### Actual behavior
No web content can play any audio.

### Steps to reproduce the behavior
1. Install Firefox but not PulseAudio
2. Open a webpage (or video/audio file) which plays sound
3. No sound


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* Re: Firefox no sound without PulseAudio
  2021-12-17 22:26 [ISSUE] Firefox no sound without PulseAudio notramo
@ 2021-12-18 14:53 ` mvf
  2021-12-20 10:50 ` biopsin
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From: mvf @ 2021-12-18 14:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ml

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New comment by mvf on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/34596#issuecomment-997213388

Comment:
Works for me on `firefox-95.0.1_1` (glibc). You could try something like this:
```
$ strace -f -e open,openat firefox 2>&1 | grep /dev/snd
```
Might tell you what goes wrong when trying to open the ALSA device(s).

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* Re: Firefox no sound without PulseAudio
  2021-12-17 22:26 [ISSUE] Firefox no sound without PulseAudio notramo
  2021-12-18 14:53 ` mvf
@ 2021-12-20 10:50 ` biopsin
  2021-12-20 10:52 ` biopsin
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From: biopsin @ 2021-12-20 10:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ml

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New comment by biopsin on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/34596#issuecomment-997812051

Comment:
@notramo can you test with a /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asound.conf
`$ aplay -l `and insert your output card number into either file

```
defaults.pcm.card 1;
defaults.ctl.card 1;
```
then `sudo alsactl store && sudo alsactl restore`

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* Re: Firefox no sound without PulseAudio
  2021-12-17 22:26 [ISSUE] Firefox no sound without PulseAudio notramo
  2021-12-18 14:53 ` mvf
  2021-12-20 10:50 ` biopsin
@ 2021-12-20 10:52 ` biopsin
  2021-12-20 10:52 ` biopsin
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From: biopsin @ 2021-12-20 10:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ml

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New comment by biopsin on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/34596#issuecomment-997812051

Comment:
@notramo can you test with a /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc
`$ aplay -l `and insert your output card number into either file

```
defaults.pcm.card 1;
defaults.ctl.card 1;
```
then `sudo alsactl store && sudo alsactl restore`

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* Re: Firefox no sound without PulseAudio
  2021-12-17 22:26 [ISSUE] Firefox no sound without PulseAudio notramo
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2021-12-20 10:52 ` biopsin
@ 2021-12-20 10:52 ` biopsin
  2022-01-23 10:52 ` ErinVoid
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From: biopsin @ 2021-12-20 10:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ml

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New comment by biopsin on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/34596#issuecomment-997812051

Comment:
@notramo can you test with a /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc
`$ aplay -l `and insert your output card number into either file

```
defaults.pcm.card 1;
defaults.ctl.card 1;
```
then `sudo alsactl store && sudo alsactl restore`
Edit: typo

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* Re: Firefox no sound without PulseAudio
  2021-12-17 22:26 [ISSUE] Firefox no sound without PulseAudio notramo
                   ` (3 preceding siblings ...)
  2021-12-20 10:52 ` biopsin
@ 2022-01-23 10:52 ` ErinVoid
  2022-01-24 18:38 ` paper42
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From: ErinVoid @ 2022-01-23 10:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ml

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New comment by ErinVoid on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/34596#issuecomment-1019458771

Comment:
Confirm Firefox, ESR and not, work well with Alsa only.  Tweaking asound is required with some sound cards

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* Re: [ISSUE] [CLOSED] Firefox no sound without PulseAudio
  2021-12-17 22:26 [ISSUE] Firefox no sound without PulseAudio notramo
                   ` (5 preceding siblings ...)
  2022-01-24 18:38 ` paper42
@ 2022-01-24 18:38 ` paper42
  2022-07-15  9:22 ` notramo
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From: paper42 @ 2022-01-24 18:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ml

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Closed issue by notramo on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/34596

Description:
### System

* xuname:  
`Void 5.15.5_1 x86_64-musl GenuineIntel uptodate rFF`
happens on also glibc
* package:  
`firefox`

### Expected behavior
Firefox can play audio even without PulseAudio.

### Actual behavior
No web content can play any audio.

### Steps to reproduce the behavior
1. Install Firefox but not PulseAudio
2. Open a webpage (or video/audio file) which plays sound
3. No sound


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* Re: Firefox no sound without PulseAudio
  2021-12-17 22:26 [ISSUE] Firefox no sound without PulseAudio notramo
                   ` (4 preceding siblings ...)
  2022-01-23 10:52 ` ErinVoid
@ 2022-01-24 18:38 ` paper42
  2022-01-24 18:38 ` [ISSUE] [CLOSED] " paper42
                   ` (14 subsequent siblings)
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From: paper42 @ 2022-01-24 18:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ml

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New comment by paper42 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/34596#issuecomment-1020419492

Comment:
It seems like nobody is able to reproduce this issue and the issue author is not answering questions.

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* Re: Firefox no sound without PulseAudio
  2021-12-17 22:26 [ISSUE] Firefox no sound without PulseAudio notramo
                   ` (6 preceding siblings ...)
  2022-01-24 18:38 ` [ISSUE] [CLOSED] " paper42
@ 2022-07-15  9:22 ` notramo
  2022-07-15  9:23 ` notramo
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From: notramo @ 2022-07-15  9:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ml

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New comment by notramo on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/34596#issuecomment-1185354032

Comment:
@paper42 could you reopen? I looked into this.


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* Re: Firefox no sound without PulseAudio
  2021-12-17 22:26 [ISSUE] Firefox no sound without PulseAudio notramo
                   ` (7 preceding siblings ...)
  2022-07-15  9:22 ` notramo
@ 2022-07-15  9:23 ` notramo
  2022-07-15  9:25 ` notramo
                   ` (11 subsequent siblings)
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From: notramo @ 2022-07-15  9:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ml

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New comment by notramo on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/34596#issuecomment-1185354651

Comment:
> Works for me on `firefox-95.0.1_1` (glibc). You could try something like this:
> 
> ```
> $ strace -f -e open,openat firefox 2>&1 | grep /dev/snd
> ```
> 
> Might tell you what goes wrong when trying to open the ALSA device(s).

It doesn't print anything. No output in terminal.

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* Re: Firefox no sound without PulseAudio
  2021-12-17 22:26 [ISSUE] Firefox no sound without PulseAudio notramo
                   ` (8 preceding siblings ...)
  2022-07-15  9:23 ` notramo
@ 2022-07-15  9:25 ` notramo
  2022-07-15  9:33 ` notramo
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From: notramo @ 2022-07-15  9:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ml

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New comment by notramo on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/34596#issuecomment-1185356143

Comment:
> @notramo can you test with a /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc `$ aplay -l `and insert your output card number into either file
> 
> ```
> defaults.pcm.card 1;
> defaults.ctl.card 1;
> ```
> 
> then `sudo alsactl store && sudo alsactl restore` Edit: typo

I substituted 1 with 0, and put this snippet in /etc/asound.conf
Doesn't work.
Output of `aplay -l`:
```
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: CX20590 Analog [CX20590 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
```

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* Re: Firefox no sound without PulseAudio
  2021-12-17 22:26 [ISSUE] Firefox no sound without PulseAudio notramo
                   ` (9 preceding siblings ...)
  2022-07-15  9:25 ` notramo
@ 2022-07-15  9:33 ` notramo
  2022-07-15  9:34 ` notramo
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From: notramo @ 2022-07-15  9:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ml

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New comment by notramo on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/34596#issuecomment-1185363106

Comment:
Maybe it can help that Element Desktop doesn't have sound either.
But everything other works fine (QMplay2, VLC, Sox play, etc.).

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* Re: Firefox no sound without PulseAudio
  2021-12-17 22:26 [ISSUE] Firefox no sound without PulseAudio notramo
                   ` (10 preceding siblings ...)
  2022-07-15  9:33 ` notramo
@ 2022-07-15  9:34 ` notramo
  2022-07-15 16:54 ` mvf
                   ` (8 subsequent siblings)
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From: notramo @ 2022-07-15  9:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ml

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New comment by notramo on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/34596#issuecomment-1185363106

Comment:
Maybe it can help that Element Desktop doesn't have sound either.
But everything other works fine (QMplay2, VLC, Sox play, etc.). These work with no configuration (no /etc/asound.conf or .asoundrc).

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* Re: Firefox no sound without PulseAudio
  2021-12-17 22:26 [ISSUE] Firefox no sound without PulseAudio notramo
                   ` (11 preceding siblings ...)
  2022-07-15  9:34 ` notramo
@ 2022-07-15 16:54 ` mvf
  2022-07-15 18:15 ` Duncaen
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From: mvf @ 2022-07-15 16:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ml

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New comment by mvf on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/34596#issuecomment-1185725886

Comment:
> > ```
> > $ strace -f -e open,openat firefox 2>&1 | grep /dev/snd
> 
> It doesn't print anything. No output in terminal.

Sorry, should have mentioned: You have to actually let Firefox try to play audio while running under `strace`.

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* Re: Firefox no sound without PulseAudio
  2021-12-17 22:26 [ISSUE] Firefox no sound without PulseAudio notramo
                   ` (12 preceding siblings ...)
  2022-07-15 16:54 ` mvf
@ 2022-07-15 18:15 ` Duncaen
  2022-07-19 20:57 ` notramo
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From: Duncaen @ 2022-07-15 18:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ml

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New comment by Duncaen on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/34596#issuecomment-1185786441

Comment:
Its not supported upstream and generally works, I don't think we need to debug unsupported audio setups for you, this is most likely related to not using dmix and the alsa hardware device being locked to some random audio stream that opens the device first.

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* Re: Firefox no sound without PulseAudio
  2021-12-17 22:26 [ISSUE] Firefox no sound without PulseAudio notramo
                   ` (13 preceding siblings ...)
  2022-07-15 18:15 ` Duncaen
@ 2022-07-19 20:57 ` notramo
  2022-07-19 20:57 ` notramo
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From: notramo @ 2022-07-19 20:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ml

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New comment by notramo on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/34596#issuecomment-1189542738

Comment:
@Duncaen Could you link where upstream mentions that ALSA is not supported? I thought Cubeb was made for supporting multiple audio systems.

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* Re: Firefox no sound without PulseAudio
  2021-12-17 22:26 [ISSUE] Firefox no sound without PulseAudio notramo
                   ` (14 preceding siblings ...)
  2022-07-19 20:57 ` notramo
@ 2022-07-19 20:57 ` notramo
  2022-07-19 21:17 ` Duncaen
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From: notramo @ 2022-07-19 20:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ml

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New comment by notramo on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/34596#issuecomment-1189543231

Comment:
> Sorry, should have mentioned: You have to actually let Firefox try to play audio while running under `strace`.

I tried to open sound files, but playback is stuck at 0:00.

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* Re: Firefox no sound without PulseAudio
  2021-12-17 22:26 [ISSUE] Firefox no sound without PulseAudio notramo
                   ` (15 preceding siblings ...)
  2022-07-19 20:57 ` notramo
@ 2022-07-19 21:17 ` Duncaen
  2022-07-19 21:17 ` Duncaen
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From: Duncaen @ 2022-07-19 21:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ml

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New comment by Duncaen on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/34596#issuecomment-1189559492

Comment:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1345661

Audio in firefox is a little more complicated than just the cubeb backend due to sand boxing and having separate content processes. Mozilla disabled alsa support a long time ago and basically said that they don't support it any further, there are still people who afterwards contributed patches to make it work and they landed upstream. But I fully understand why they don't support it, the alsa user experience and the api in general is simply not user friendly and doesn't work out of the box for most users.

I would suggest you to use a sound server, like pulse or pipewire, if you still want to use alsa for some reason, look up how to debug libcubeb and how to debug sandbox issues in firefox, both have their own environment variables for more verbose logging.

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* Re: Firefox no sound without PulseAudio
  2021-12-17 22:26 [ISSUE] Firefox no sound without PulseAudio notramo
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  2022-07-19 21:17 ` Duncaen
@ 2022-07-19 21:17 ` Duncaen
  2022-07-19 21:19 ` Duncaen
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From: Duncaen @ 2022-07-19 21:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ml

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New comment by Duncaen on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/34596#issuecomment-1189559492

Comment:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1345661

Audio in firefox is a little more complicated than just the cubeb backend due to sandboxing and having separate content processes. Mozilla disabled alsa support a long time ago and basically said that they don't support it any further, there are still people who afterwards contributed patches to make it work and they landed upstream. But I fully understand why they don't support it, the alsa user experience and the api in general is simply not user friendly and doesn't work out of the box for most users.

I would suggest you to use a sound server, like pulse or pipewire, if you still want to use alsa for some reason, look up how to debug libcubeb and how to debug sandbox issues in firefox, both have their own environment variables for more verbose logging.

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* Re: Firefox no sound without PulseAudio
  2021-12-17 22:26 [ISSUE] Firefox no sound without PulseAudio notramo
                   ` (17 preceding siblings ...)
  2022-07-19 21:17 ` Duncaen
@ 2022-07-19 21:19 ` Duncaen
  2022-07-19 21:21 ` Duncaen
  2022-07-19 21:22 ` [ISSUE] [CLOSED] " Duncaen
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From: Duncaen @ 2022-07-19 21:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ml

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New comment by Duncaen on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/34596#issuecomment-1189559492

Comment:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1345661

Audio in firefox is a little more complicated than just the cubeb backend due to sandboxing and having separate content processes. Mozilla disabled alsa support a long time ago and basically said that they don't support it any further, there are still people who afterwards contributed patches to make it work and they landed upstream. But I fully understand why they don't support it, the alsa user experience and the api in general is simply not user friendly and doesn't work out of the box for most users.

I would suggest you to use a sound server, like pulse or pipewire, if you still want to use alsa for some reason, look up how to debug libcubeb and how to debug sandbox issues in firefox, both have their own environment variables for more verbose logging. (After you get your basic alsa setup working, I still think this is due to your setup neither support software nor hardware mixing and there is simply one random process/program locking the alsa device at a time.)

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* Re: Firefox no sound without PulseAudio
  2021-12-17 22:26 [ISSUE] Firefox no sound without PulseAudio notramo
                   ` (18 preceding siblings ...)
  2022-07-19 21:19 ` Duncaen
@ 2022-07-19 21:21 ` Duncaen
  2022-07-19 21:22 ` [ISSUE] [CLOSED] " Duncaen
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From: Duncaen @ 2022-07-19 21:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ml

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New comment by Duncaen on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/34596#issuecomment-1189559492

Comment:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1345661

Audio in firefox is a little more complicated than just the cubeb backend due to sandboxing and having separate content processes. Mozilla disabled alsa support a long time ago and basically said that they don't support it any further, there are still people who afterwards contributed patches to make it work and they landed upstream. But I fully understand why they don't support it, the alsa user experience and the api in general is simply not user friendly and doesn't work out of the box for most users.

I would suggest you to use a sound server, like pulse or pipewire, if you still want to use alsa for some reason, look up how to debug libcubeb and how to debug sandbox issues in firefox, both have their own environment variables for more verbose logging. (After you get your basic alsa setup working, I still think this is due to your setup neither supporting software nor hardware mixing and there is simply one random process/program locking the alsa device at a time.)

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* Re: [ISSUE] [CLOSED] Firefox no sound without PulseAudio
  2021-12-17 22:26 [ISSUE] Firefox no sound without PulseAudio notramo
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  2022-07-19 21:21 ` Duncaen
@ 2022-07-19 21:22 ` Duncaen
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From: Duncaen @ 2022-07-19 21:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ml

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Closed issue by notramo on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/34596

Description:
### System

* xuname:  
`Void 5.15.5_1 x86_64-musl GenuineIntel uptodate rFF`
happens on also glibc
* package:  
`firefox`

### Expected behavior
Firefox can play audio even without PulseAudio.

### Actual behavior
No web content can play any audio.

### Steps to reproduce the behavior
1. Install Firefox but not PulseAudio
2. Open a webpage (or video/audio file) which plays sound
3. No sound


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