Re: shadow: update to 4.14.5.

[alejandro-colomar <alejandro-colomar@users.noreply.github.com>]

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New comment by alejandro-colomar on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/pull/48813#issuecomment-1986941736

Comment:
Hi!

> @alejandro-colomar Thanks a lot for taking a look.

=)

> Do you think it would be possible to make stuff that conflicts with coreutils and util-linux (e.g. groups) optional via a configure?

I'm neutral to that, but others seem to not like the idea.  (Now I see you're the same one that reported the issue <https://github.com/shadow-maint/shadow/issues/842>, <https://lists.alpinelinux.org/~alpine/aports/%3CZeyg8ClVMNeRifua%40debian%3E>.)  How about opening an issue, not asking to make it conditional, but rather reporting the conflict with other projects?  Maybe that's more convincing.  You could document which distros use shadow's groups, and which distros use others' groups.  Maybe we could merge the efforts from those other projects and shadow into a single groups implementation.  While some competition is good, it might be good to merge at some point.

> right now most distros have to patch it (and their man) out (see the patch taken from arch). Ditto for respecting usr/bin and usr/sbin config options.

You know what?  I would wipe out the entire autotools-based build system, which has been more problematic than anything else.  I would write a hand-written GNUmakefile that allows more flexibility.  But some distro maintainers (cough, Gentoo, cough) opposed strongly.

Please, please, report a bug in shadow.  That will add up to the current issues with the build system.  :)

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> For the Alpine patch, maybe can you take a look at this https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/aports/-/merge_requests/50121 pull request? the first thread has a discussion about why this was done.

Yup, I found that MR a moment ago, and sent an email <https://lists.sr.ht/~hallyn/shadow/%3CZeyg8ClVMNeRifua%40debian%3E>.