[ISSUE] LXQt (2.1.0) - qterminal version mismatch

[ISSUE] LXQt (2.1.0) - qterminal version mismatch

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New issue by Frtzqe on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/53979

Description:
### Is this a new report?

Yes

### System Info

Void 6.12.9_1 x86_64 GenuineIntel/KVM uptodate rFF

### Package(s) Affected

qterminal 2.1.0

### Does a report exist for this bug with the project's home (upstream) and/or another distro?

_No response_

### Expected behaviour

The qterminal program reports itself as being version 2.1.0, but it is not.

`# qterminal --version
2.1.0
#`


### Actual behaviour

Most notably, when starting `qterminal`, the first menu category should be "Session". This is the new name of the former "File" menu category. Another clear example that the program is not the actual "2.1.0" as advertised, is that the new behaviour of closing an active session (close without asking if no program is actually running inside a shell) is absent. 


### Steps to reproduce

See above. 

Re: [ISSUE] [CLOSED] LXQt (2.1.0) - qterminal version mismatch

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Closed issue by Frtzqe on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/53979

Description:
### Is this a new report?

Yes

### System Info

Void 6.12.9_1 x86_64 GenuineIntel/KVM uptodate rFF

### Package(s) Affected

qterminal 2.1.0

### Does a report exist for this bug with the project's home (upstream) and/or another distro?

_No response_

### Expected behaviour

The qterminal program reports itself as being version 2.1.0, but it is not.

`# qterminal --version`
`2.1.0`
`#`


### Actual behaviour

Most notably, when starting `qterminal`, the first menu category should be "Session". This is the new name of the former "File" menu category (changed in release 2.1 or even 2.0, not sure). 

Another clear example that the program is _**not the actual "2.1.0"**_ as advertised, is that the new behaviour of closing an active session (always closing without asking if no program is actually running inside a shell, ask if a program is running) is absent. 


### Steps to reproduce

See above. 

Re: LXQt (2.1.0) - qterminal version mismatch

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New comment by sgn on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/53979#issuecomment-2593111044

Comment:
> Most notably, when starting qterminal, the first menu category should be "Session". This is the new name of the former "File" menu category (changed in release 2.1 or even 2.0, not sure).

Where do you get that info?
- qterminal 2.1.0 was released on Nov 5th 2024 https://github.com/lxqt/qterminal/releases/tag/2.1.0
- File was changed to Session on Dec 15th 2024, (1 month and 10 days later than 2.1.0) https://github.com/lxqt/qterminal/releases/tag/2.1.0

Re: [ISSUE] [CLOSED] LXQt (2.1.0) - qterminal version mismatch

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Closed issue by Frtzqe on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/53979

Description:
### Is this a new report?

Yes

### System Info

Void 6.12.9_1 x86_64 GenuineIntel/KVM uptodate rFF

### Package(s) Affected

qterminal 2.1.0

### Does a report exist for this bug with the project's home (upstream) and/or another distro?

_No response_

### Expected behaviour

The qterminal program reports itself as being version 2.1.0, but it is not.

`# qterminal --version`
`2.1.0`
`#`


### Actual behaviour

Most notably, when starting `qterminal`, the first menu category should be "Session". This is the new name of the former "File" menu category (changed in release 2.1 or even 2.0, not sure). 

Another clear example that the program is _**not the actual "2.1.0"**_ as advertised, is that the new behaviour of closing an active session (always closing without asking if no program is actually running inside a shell, ask if a program is running) is absent. 


### Steps to reproduce

See above. 

Re: LXQt (2.1.0) - qterminal version mismatch

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New comment by sgn on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/53979#issuecomment-2593111044

Comment:
> Most notably, when starting qterminal, the first menu category should be "Session". This is the new name of the former "File" menu category (changed in release 2.1 or even 2.0, not sure).

Where do you get that info?
- qterminal 2.1.0 was released on Nov 5th 2024 https://github.com/lxqt/qterminal/releases/tag/2.1.0
- File was changed to Session on Dec 15th 2024, (1 month and 10 days later than 2.1.0) https://github.com/lxqt/qterminal/pull/1212

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New comment by sgn on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/53979#issuecomment-2593146487

Comment:
> Another clear example that the program is not the actual "2.1.0" as advertised, is that the new behaviour of closing an active session (always closing without asking if no program is actually running inside a shell, ask if a program is running) is absent.

Another clear example that the report is invalid and wasting everyone's time. https://github.com/lxqt/qterminal/pull/1200
was merged on 2nd of Dec of 2024, iow, 3 weeks after 2.1.0

Re: LXQt (2.1.0) - qterminal version mismatch

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New comment by Frtzqe on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/53979#issuecomment-2593448337

Comment:
I see. Thanks for your response.

Seems I have the wrong idea about to what extent Void a rolling release system is. Or, to put it mildly differently, my current  OS (Arch Linux) has a different model (and/or speed); usually new software of major packages arrives pretty quickly in the "extra-testing" branch, and usually soon after they migrate to the actual system. 

I _was_ enthusiastic about Void, when I took a serious look. Now, after a few bumps with you here I am less enthousiastic. For the rest, my experiences so far are positive (package manager, non-systemd). 

I was only trying to be constructive. Perhaps your project is understaffed, but there is absolutely no need to accuse me from wasting everyone's time. I **_clearly_** noted my experiences; it is not my fault that _apparently_ the lxqt-project has made a flaw with the minor numbering of qterminal. I cross referenced it with another system (not Void), that **_clearly_** has another version of qterminal, but reports itself also with **_"2.1.0"_**. Hence the confusion on my part. 

Sorry wasting your time (and everyone else too). 

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New comment by sgn on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/53979#issuecomment-2594449626

Comment:
I am sure that you don't know what are you speaking.

Currently, ArchLinux's qterminal was delivered on 14 Nov 2024 https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/qterminal/ Hence, no way it could ship the features that were merged later than that day.

I am 100% sure that you're using either some testing version, development version, AUR, or you build it yourself.

The current development version (read: build from qterminal's master branch as of 2025-01-16) will still report version of `2.1.0` despite that it is way far developed (and ofc, unstable, contains broken features, and maybe security problems). We don't care if you want to risk yourself, but we don't risk ourselves.

Re: LXQt (2.1.0) - qterminal version mismatch

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New comment by Frtzqe on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/53979#issuecomment-2594662501

Comment:
Well, I sure do not want to upset you anyway. I think Void Linux is a good thing, and I appreciate all the effort people like you are putting into it. I can't emphasise that enough. 

I've around long time enough to only use the package system to install system-software. So, I am professional, going back to late 80's. Please restrain yourself from uttering assumptions..... In general I know exactly what I am talking about. 

I am not using any test or dev version, not even AUR, and I certainly did not build it myself.  

Re: LXQt (2.1.0) - qterminal version mismatch

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New comment by Frtzqe on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/53979#issuecomment-2594662501

Comment:
Well, I sure do not want to upset you anyway. I think Void Linux is a good thing, and I appreciate all the effort people like you are putting into it. I can't emphasise that enough. 

I've around long time enough to only use the package system to install system-software. So, I am professional, going back to late 80's. Please restrain yourself from uttering assumptions..... In general I know exactly what I am talking about. 

I am not using any test or dev version, not even AUR, and I certainly did not build it myself.  So, excuse me for being rude. 

I think I will enjoy Void Linux in the near future (after the icon-thingy with LXQt got fixed, and `bruno` is available from the package system. 

Re: LXQt (2.1.0) - qterminal version mismatch

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New comment by Frtzqe on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/53979#issuecomment-2594662501

Comment:
Well, I sure do not want to upset you anyway. I think Void Linux is a good thing, and I appreciate all the effort people like you are putting into it. I can't emphasise that enough. 

I've been around long time enough to only use the package system to install system-software. I am professional, going back to late 80's. Please restrain yourself from uttering assumptions you can't validate..... In general I know exactly what I am talking about. 

I am not using any test or dev version on Arch, not even AUR, and I certainly did not build qterminal myself.  So, excuse me for being rude. 

I think I will enjoy Void Linux in the near future (after the icon-thingy with LXQt got fixed, and `bruno` is available from the package system. I have a good feeling about it. 

The alternative would remain Arch, with the systemd machinery removed, or perhaps Chimera.... but that would be future thing. 

Re: LXQt (2.1.0) - qterminal version mismatch

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New comment by Frtzqe on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/53979#issuecomment-2594662501

Comment:
Well, I sure do not want to upset you anyway. I think Void Linux is a good thing, and I appreciate all the effort people like you are putting into it. I can't emphasise that enough. 

I've been around long time enough to only use the package system to install system-software (including LXQt and qterminal). I am professional, going back to late 80's. Please restrain yourself from uttering assumptions you can't validate..... In general I know exactly what I am talking about. 

I am not using any test or dev version on Arch, not even AUR, and I certainly did not build qterminal myself.  So, excuse me for being rude. 

I think I will enjoy Void Linux in the near future (after the icon-thingy with LXQt got fixed, and `bruno` is available from the package system. I have a good feeling about it. 

The alternative would remain Arch, with the systemd machinery removed, or perhaps Chimera.... but that would be future thing. 

Re: LXQt (2.1.0) - qterminal version mismatch

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New comment by Frtzqe on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/53979#issuecomment-2594662501

Comment:
Well, I sure do not want to upset you anyway. I think Void Linux is a good thing, and I appreciate all the effort people like you are putting into it. I can't emphasise that enough. 

I've been around long time enough to only use the package system to install system-software (including LXQt and qterminal). I am professional, going back to late 80's. Please restrain yourself from uttering assumptions you can't validate..... In general I know exactly what I am talking about. 

I am not using any test or dev version on Arch, not even AUR, and I certainly did not build qterminal myself.  So, excuse me for being rude. 

I think I will enjoy Void Linux in the near future (after the icon-thingy with LXQt got fixed, and `bruno` is available from the package system. I have a good feeling about it. 

The alternative would remain Arch, with the systemd machinery removed, or perhaps Chimera.... but that would be a future thing.  Alternatively just build all the packages myself, put them on a local server, and grab them from there. 

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New comment by Frtzqe on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/53979#issuecomment-2597499190

Comment:
I owe _**sgn**_ **my true apologies**. 

I am the first to admit it.  I came to a wrong conclusion. Seems some local experiment (ofcourse related to LXQt) pulled in qterminal as well (already months ago). Maybe I was aware of it, at the time, but now.... I'd surely forgotten all about it (and the experiment as well). 

Thanks for your scrutiny. Apologies.