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From: atweiden <atweiden@users.noreply.github.com>
To: ml@inbox.vuxu.org
Subject: [ISSUE] Neovim template should not contest Vim namespace in `alternatives`
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 23:03:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <gh-mailinglist-notifications-41a7ca26-5023-4802-975b-f1789d68868e-void-packages-36164@inbox.vuxu.org> (raw)

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New issue by atweiden on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/36164

Description:
**Summary**:

The `neovim` template should not install symlinks contesting the `vim` namespace.

**Reasoning**:

1. No other major OS vendor treats Neovim and Vim in this way.

2. In 2022, anyone choosing to open Neovim instead of Vim, or vice versa, is making a very deliberate choice. Because Neovim supports Lua as a first class citizen, while Vim only supports Vimscript as a first class citizen, Neovim’s plugin ecosystem has begun to differ significantly from Vim’s. The Neovim editor is increasingly configured separately from Vim — often in Lua, and with a different selection of plugins.

3. By default, an unconfigured Neovim severely alters the terminal cursor’s appearance in a manner which is difficult to counteract without ending the active terminal session. Accidentally opening an unconfigured Neovim instance upon typing `vim` into a terminal creates an awful user experience — which is precisely what happens when a user installs Neovim after Vim, due to the `neovim` template’s use of `alternatives`.

I’ve been using Vim and Neovim both for a good, long while. To any Neovim fans, I wouldn’t have opened this issue if I didn’t want both programs installed simultaneously. But If I’m typing `vim` in my terminal, I’m most definitely not expecting Neovim to pop open. Type `vim`, and “the” Vim should open, or an error message should appear. At present, due to the `neovim` template’s use of `alternatives`, when you type `vim`, `nvim` pops open instead, and the terminal cursor’s appearance is ruined until you exit the terminal session.

             reply	other threads:[~2022-03-15 22:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-15 22:03 atweiden [this message]
2022-03-15 22:36 ` classabbyamp
2022-03-15 22:39 ` classabbyamp
2022-03-15 22:44 ` classabbyamp
2022-03-15 22:45 ` classabbyamp
2022-03-15 22:47 ` classabbyamp
2022-03-15 23:35 ` atweiden
2022-03-16  0:03 ` paper42
2022-03-16  1:39 ` atweiden
2022-03-16  2:27 ` classabbyamp
2022-03-16  2:28 ` classabbyamp
2022-03-16  2:31 ` Duncaen
2022-03-16  2:39 ` Duncaen
2022-03-16  5:18 ` atweiden
2022-03-16  6:00 ` atweiden
2022-03-16  9:21 ` paper42
2022-03-16  9:51 ` atweiden
2022-03-16 21:55 ` lemmi
2022-03-17  0:35 ` atweiden
2022-03-17  0:52 ` atweiden
2022-03-17  0:54 ` Duncaen
2022-03-17  0:58 ` Duncaen
2022-03-17  1:07 ` atweiden
2022-03-17  1:09 ` tibequadorian
2022-03-17  1:10 ` [ISSUE] [CLOSED] " Duncaen
2022-03-17  1:12 ` tibequadorian
2022-03-17  1:14 ` Duncaen
2022-03-17  1:35 ` Duncaen
2022-03-17  1:50 ` atweiden
2022-03-18 12:09 ` tibequadorian
2022-03-18 12:09 ` tibequadorian
2022-03-18 12:09 ` tibequadorian
2022-03-18 12:12 ` tibequadorian
2022-03-27 18:28 ` Vaelatern
2022-03-27 20:10 ` atweiden
2022-03-27 20:30 ` classabbyamp
2022-03-27 22:00 ` Vaelatern
2022-03-27 22:49 ` atweiden
2022-03-28  1:15 ` Vaelatern

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