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From: Donald Allen <donald...@gmail.com>
To: voidlinux <void...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: More, manpages
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 06:28:26 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <11e3d0f5-aece-4d36-b121-7e64054d9790@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fbc8511c-8fb0-4e45-b8c0-5b673e4a6ea6@googlegroups.com>


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On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 4:12:58 AM UTC-4, Seth Hover wrote:
>
> On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 12:09:24 AM UTC+2, Donald Allen wrote:
>>
>>
>> I've done that. But my point is that the distribution shouldn't include 
>> an indecent pager by default, especially for something as fundamental as 
>> man. I installed from void-live-x86_64-20150713.iso 
>> <http://repo.voidlinux.eu/live/current/void-live-x86_64-20150713.iso> and 
>> less was installed. I assume, but don't know, that it is installed by 
>> default by the other live images. But if it isn't, it should be. Not being 
>> able to move around freely in man pages is a real problem, and I think many 
>> will not know how to change the pager. And they shouldn't have to.
>>
>
> i think that argument could be made for some distributions. 
>
> for a distro like void, a user could be reasonably expected to know how to 
> change their $PAGER or at least learn how to do this.
>

I'm sorry, but I completely disagree. One of the jobs of a 
distribution-maker is to choose sensible defaults. That's true of even the 
most stick-shift, anti-Ubuntu distributions, like Arch, Slackware and Void. 
The virtue of these distributions is that they don't load you up with bloat 
from the moment they are installed. They give you the opportunity to start 
small and build as much of a computing environment as you need and no more. 
But for what they do provide, it makes no sense to choose bad defaults, as 
'more' is in the 'man' case (in my opinion), on the grounds that "anyone 
using this distribution should know how to change this". 

>
> --seth
>

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      reply	other threads:[~2015-09-18 13:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-16 18:29 Donald Allen
2015-09-16 18:38 ` Duncaen
2015-09-16 20:58   ` Donald Allen
2015-09-17  8:02     ` Duncaen
2015-09-17  7:01 ` Pierre Bourgin
2015-09-17 11:14   ` Donald Allen
2015-09-17 14:15     ` Juan RP
2015-09-17 14:32       ` Christian Neukirchen
2015-09-17 22:09       ` Donald Allen
2015-09-18  8:12         ` Seth Hover
2015-09-18 13:28           ` Donald Allen [this message]

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