WTF?

WTF?

[weedeater64]

[-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3902 bytes --]

Why is Void listed on without-systemd?

[anon@void-live ~]$ locate systemd
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/00systemd-bootchart
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/00systemd-bootchart/module-setup.sh
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-cmdline-ask.service
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-cmdline-ask.sh
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-cmdline.service
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-cmdline.service.8
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-cmdline.service.8.asc
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-cmdline.sh
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-emergency.service
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-emergency.sh
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-initqueue.service
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-initqueue.service.8
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-initqueue.service.8.asc
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-initqueue.sh
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-mount.service
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-mount.service.8
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-mount.service.8.asc
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-mount.sh
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-pre-mount.service
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-pre-mount.service.8
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-pre-mount.service.8.asc
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-pre-mount.sh
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-pre-pivot.service
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-pre-pivot.service.8
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-pre-pivot.service.8.asc
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-pre-pivot.sh
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-pre-trigger.service
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-pre-trigger.service.8
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-pre-trigger.service.8.asc
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-pre-trigger.sh
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-pre-udev.service
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-pre-udev.service.8
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-pre-udev.service.8.asc
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-pre-udev.sh
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-shutdown.service
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-shutdown.service.8
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-shutdown.service.8.asc
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-tmpfiles.conf
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/emergency.service
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/initrd.target
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/module-setup.sh
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/rescue.service
/usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98systemd/rootfs-generator.sh
/usr/lib/systemd
/usr/lib/systemd/system
/usr/lib/systemd/system/dracut-cmdline.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/dracut-initqueue.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/dracut-mount.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/dracut-pre-mount.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/dracut-pre-pivot.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/dracut-pre-trigger.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/dracut-pre-udev.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/dracut-shutdown.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/initrd.target.wants
/usr/lib/systemd/system/initrd.target.wants/dracut-cmdline.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/initrd.target.wants/dracut-initqueue.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/initrd.target.wants/dracut-mount.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/initrd.target.wants/dracut-pre-mount.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/initrd.target.wants/dracut-pre-pivot.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/initrd.target.wants/dracut-pre-trigger.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/initrd.target.wants/dracut-pre-udev.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/sysinit.target.wants
/usr/lib/systemd/system/sysinit.target.wants/dracut-shutdown.service
/usr/lib/systemd/system/wacom-inputattach@.service
/usr/libexec/xbps-triggers/systemd-service


[-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 4063 bytes --]

Re: WTF?

[Christian Neukirchen]

weedeater64 <weede...@gmail.com> writes:

> Why is Void listed on without-systemd?

Because it does not use systemd.

-- 
Christian Neukirchen  <chneuk...@gmail.com>  http://chneukirchen.org

Re: WTF?

[weedeater64]

[-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 498 bytes --]

So Void is not using all of those files, and they can be deleted.

Then why are they there in the first place?

Looks to me like Void is very much using systemd.



On Friday, June 5, 2015 at 1:00:35 PM UTC-5, Christian Neukirchen wrote:
>
> weedeater64 <weed...@gmail.com <javascript:>> writes: 
>
> > Why is Void listed on without-systemd? 
>
> Because it does not use systemd. 
>
> -- 
> Christian Neukirchen  <chne...@gmail.com <javascript:>>  
> http://chneukirchen.org 
>

[-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1439 bytes --]

Re: WTF?

[Stefan Mühlinghaus]

[-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 147 bytes --]

Systemd was optional, but not used by default. The systemd support is 
currently broken so it will probably be removed completely in the future.

[-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 164 bytes --]

Re: WTF?

[weedeater64]

[-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 382 bytes --]



On Friday, June 5, 2015 at 1:12:17 PM UTC-5, Stefan Mühlinghaus wrote:
>
> Systemd was optional, but not used by default. The systemd support is 
> currently broken so it will probably be removed completely in the future.
>

So Void is not using all of those files and they can be deleted?

Otherwise it is using them and should not be listed on without-systemd.

 

[-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 569 bytes --]

Re: WTF?

[Frankie Wild]

[-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 618 bytes --]

[mar1n3r0@localhost ~]$ locate systemd
[mar1n3r0@localhost ~]$ 


On a full install with runit by default no traces of systemd are present. 

On Friday, June 5, 2015 at 9:27:24 PM UTC+3, weedeater64 wrote:
>
>
>
> On Friday, June 5, 2015 at 1:12:17 PM UTC-5, Stefan Mühlinghaus wrote:
>>
>> Systemd was optional, but not used by default. The systemd support is 
>> currently broken so it will probably be removed completely in the future.
>>
>
> So Void is not using all of those files and they can be deleted?
>
> Otherwise it is using them and should not be listed on without-systemd.
>
>  
>

[-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 990 bytes --]

Re: WTF?

[Antonio Malcolm]

[-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1975 bytes --]

Not true.

$ which systemd
which: no systemd in 
(/home/antonio/.overrides/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/bin:/sbin)

Yet, there is systemd under /usr/lib
Specifically, under /usr/lib/systemd/system, I have the following:

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   55 Feb 18 06:46 dracut-cmdline.service -> 
../../dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-cmdline.service
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   57 Feb 18 06:46 dracut-initqueue.service -> 
../../dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-initqueue.service
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   53 Feb 18 06:46 dracut-mount.service -> 
../../dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-mount.service
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   57 Feb 18 06:46 dracut-pre-mount.service -> 
../../dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-pre-mount.service
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   57 Feb 18 06:46 dracut-pre-pivot.service -> 
../../dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-pre-pivot.service
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   59 Feb 18 06:46 dracut-pre-trigger.service -> 
../../dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-pre-trigger.service
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   56 Feb 18 06:46 dracut-pre-udev.service -> 
../../dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-pre-udev.service
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   56 Feb 18 06:46 dracut-shutdown.service -> 
../../dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-shutdown.service
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 25 10:05 initrd.target.wants
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root   36 May 25 10:05 sysinit.target.wants

While, admittedly, my knowledge of a working systemd install is limited (as 
I've managed to avoid it, and am ceratinly no systemd expert), that doesn't 
look quite standard (again, I could be wrong).
On the surface, it looks like some sort of workaround, or partial install, 
using the systemd directory as a means for fulfilling some expected 
dependencies for dracut.

On Friday, June 5, 2015 at 11:14:47 PM UTC-7, Frankie Wild wrote:
>
> [mar1n3r0@localhost ~]$ locate systemd
> [mar1n3r0@localhost ~]$ 
>
>
> On a full install with runit by default no traces of systemd are present. 
>
>

[-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2371 bytes --]

Re: WTF?

[Will Sergent]

[-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1899 bytes --]


I dont have any of those files, maybe they were removed in later versions.


[m0rl0ck@loki:~]$cd /usr/lib/systemd
> -bash: cd: /usr/lib/systemd: No such file or directory
> [m0rl0ck@loki:~]$
>
>
On Monday, June 29, 2015 at 4:55:39 PM UTC-4, Antonio Malcolm wrote:
>
>
> Specifically, under /usr/lib/systemd/system, I have the following:
>
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   55 Feb 18 06:46 dracut-cmdline.service -> 
> ../../dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-cmdline.service
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   57 Feb 18 06:46 dracut-initqueue.service -> 
> ../../dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-initqueue.service
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   53 Feb 18 06:46 dracut-mount.service -> 
> ../../dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-mount.service
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   57 Feb 18 06:46 dracut-pre-mount.service -> 
> ../../dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-pre-mount.service
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   57 Feb 18 06:46 dracut-pre-pivot.service -> 
> ../../dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-pre-pivot.service
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   59 Feb 18 06:46 dracut-pre-trigger.service -> 
> ../../dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-pre-trigger.service
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   56 Feb 18 06:46 dracut-pre-udev.service -> 
> ../../dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-pre-udev.service
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   56 Feb 18 06:46 dracut-shutdown.service -> 
> ../../dracut/modules.d/98systemd/dracut-shutdown.service
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 25 10:05 initrd.target.wants
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root   36 May 25 10:05 sysinit.target.wants
>
> While, admittedly, my knowledge of a working systemd install is limited 
> (as I've managed to avoid it, and am ceratinly no systemd expert), that 
> doesn't look quite standard (again, I could be wrong).
> On the surface, it looks like some sort of workaround, or partial install, 
> using the systemd directory as a means for fulfilling some expected 
> dependencies for dracut.
>
>

[-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2339 bytes --]