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From: "'Quentin Rameau' via voidlinux" <voidlinux@googlegroups.com>
To: voidlinux@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: patch to add mailing list to website
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 11:09:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200712110906.3ebe1413@fifth.space> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87eeptgjlt.fsf@ada>

> > The inactivity of the mailing list could be due to the lack of 
> > any
> > mention of it on the website, or the fact that you and others 
> > don't
> > point people to it.
> 
> When i started using Void last year, the mailing list was 
> mentioned in a few different places, and so i immediately joined 
> it. Despite the fact that the mailing list /was/ being mentioned, 
> i found that people weren't using it. Which doesn't surprise me - 
> although i prefer mailing lists, it seems many people nowadays 
> really don't like using them. So i'm not sure that the inactivity 
> of the mailing list is primarily due to it not being mentioned.
> 
> > It sounds like some members of the community
> > have decided the mailing list is dead, while some are still 
> > suggesting
> > it as a place to ask for help and submit patches.  Perhaps we 
> > should
> > have a broader discussion about whether the mailing list is an
> > official communication channel?
> 
> Yes, i agree it would be good to be clear on this, as i raised 
> this issue myself here:
> 
> https://github.com/void-linux/void-docs/issues/337#issuecomment-649899928
> 
> If it's decided that the mailing list is still an official 
> communication channel, then it should certainly be mentioned on 
> the "Join Us" page.

Another point is that most people systematically advertise github
company (like we saw here) as a communication tool in opposition to the
mailing list.

Also, the incentive of some void developers is to centralize data in a
single place, like what is the github model, one plateform to rule them
all.

There is also this argument that this would close the door to the github
crowd (ie: those who supposedly would not be able to use a mailing
because it's more complicated than a web interface).

Finding the mailing is hard, at this moment the only mention of it is
“We also maintain a mailing list which you can find on the website” but
I wasn't actually able to find it, the only mention of it seems to be
on the deprecated and unlinked wiki.

So, in the end, the lack of willingness from the main developers to
using the mailing list, plus the lack of advertisement about it surely
makes it hard for people to come (back) to it.

Also maybe that is true that the majority of void users are github-bound
users, but that doesn't mean there aren't others.

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-12  9:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-02 21:29 'Caleb M.' via voidlinux
2020-07-03  5:18 ` Alexis
2020-07-03  6:14   ` 'Caleb M.' via voidlinux
2020-07-03  7:09     ` Alexis
2020-07-12  9:09       ` 'Quentin Rameau' via voidlinux [this message]
2020-07-12  9:40         ` Đoàn Trần Công Danh
2020-07-21 19:42           ` 'Caleb M.' via voidlinux
2020-07-21 20:50             ` 'Quentin Rameau' via voidlinux
2020-07-21 20:59               ` Juan Romero Pardines

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