openbox on wayland?

openbox on wayland?

[amber gold]

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I just installed i686 base system on my IBM Thinkpad T43 and noticed that 
installing Openbox triggers Wayland instead of X11. I wasn't expecting that 
at all and would like to ask if this is OK? Or something regarding Openbox 
dependencies is broken? And BTW, how do I start "X" (or rather Wayland) 
session now?

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Re: openbox on wayland?

[Antonio Malcolm]

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Huh. I hadn't noticed this. I mean, I know Wayland is installed, but 
running Openbox with lightdm, my X session starts just fine.
What packages did you install before attempting to start your session?
BTW, startx starts X.

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Re: openbox on wayland?

[amber gold]

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Yes, I know that I just type 'startx' to enter graphical mode, but in my 
case there is no 'startx' command. Installing Openbox didn't trigger X11 
but Wayland. And that's why I posted this issue here. 

On Monday, June 29, 2015 at 10:43:34 PM UTC+2, Antonio Malcolm wrote:
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> Huh. I hadn't noticed this. I mean, I know Wayland is installed, but 
> running Openbox with lightdm, my X session starts just fine.
> What packages did you install before attempting to start your session?
> BTW, startx starts X.
>

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Re: openbox on wayland?

[JD Robinson]

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You may try installing x11 or xorg or whatever X is masquerading as, wayland may have been set up as a dependency to OpenBox.

Re: openbox on wayland?

[Antonio Malcolm]

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This all brings us back to my initial question- what packages have you 
installed?

I have X running with xorg-minimal, xorg-fonts, xterm and xclock installed.

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Re: openbox on wayland?

[Duncaen]

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openbox doesn't depend on xorg-server because x11 is network transparent 
and wayland not.
Install xorg or xorg-minimal to have a local xserver.

Am Dienstag, 30. Juni 2015 00:07:38 UTC+2 schrieb amber gold:
>
> Yes, I know that I just type 'startx' to enter graphical mode, but in my 
> case there is no 'startx' command. Installing Openbox didn't trigger X11 
> but Wayland. And that's why I posted this issue here. 
>
> On Monday, June 29, 2015 at 10:43:34 PM UTC+2, Antonio Malcolm wrote:
>>
>> Huh. I hadn't noticed this. I mean, I know Wayland is installed, but 
>> running Openbox with lightdm, my X session starts just fine.
>> What packages did you install before attempting to start your session?
>> BTW, startx starts X.
>>
>

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Re: openbox on wayland?

[Antonio Malcolm]

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Did you read my last post before responding? Doesn't sound like it. Or, 
you've responded to the wrong post.



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Re: openbox on wayland?

[amber gold]

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OK, so I have to install X11. And that means that dependencies on Openbox 
are misconfigured. I hope someone will fix this. (AFAIK, openbox cannot 
ever run in Wayland)

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Re: openbox on wayland?

[Antonio Malcolm]

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I don't think the dependencies are misconfigured. Not everyone will want to 
install X the same way, such as the minimalist way I suggested.
I think, in this case, they've done it right.

Install xorg-minimal, xorg-fonts, xterm and xclock, for a minimalist 
install (if you want minimalist), and you should be good to go.

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Re: openbox on wayland?

[Antonio Malcolm]

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BTW, X won't start without xterm and xclock.
Been there, done that.

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Re: openbox on wayland?

[Stefan Mühlinghaus]

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Openbox does not depend on wayland. Several other packages do, like "gtk+3" 
and "xorg-server". It was probably just pulled in as a dependency for 
something else. You may already have the X server installed but to use the 
"startx" command you need to install the "xinit" package. It is a 
dependency of "xorg-minimal" but will not be included if you take another 
route to installing X.

Dependencies in this area are deliberately kept a little lax, I assume, to 
allow for more freedom of choice when installing and configuring X.



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