From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 01:02:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncaen To: voidlinux Message-Id: <5f11ad7e-1773-49b6-9adf-bc89a654bb85@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <58e3c983-e756-43a1-98de-96357bc022c8@googlegroups.com> <464b2498-24e7-49aa-9df8-ff3eff1fba8f@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: More, manpages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_431_1192548663.1442476949083" ------=_Part_431_1192548663.1442476949083 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_432_320305511.1442476949083" ------=_Part_432_320305511.1442476949083 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Your right the terminal has nothing to do with it, i use less as $PAGER too. PAGER=more man man > Breaks the scrollback, if it try "more somelargefile" it works. More is part of the util-linux package and therefore it is the only pager installed by default. Am Mittwoch, 16. September 2015 22:58:56 UTC+2 schrieb Donald Allen: > > > > On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 2:38:47 PM UTC-4, Duncaen wrote: >> >> About 'v', do you have setup $EDITOR or $VISUAL in your shell environment. >> On the problem with 'b' or '^b', the man page of more says it only works >> with files and not with pipes, is this the problem? >> > > Sounds very plausible. I'm used to the man on Arch, which presents the man > pages in a vim-like environment (maybe it is vim?). The simple vi commands > work, and 'gg' gets you to the top, as in vim. The use of more, > particularly if you can't scroll back, is big step backwards (pun intended). > > >> For me it works as expected with st as terminal emulator. >> > > That would not seem to be consistent with your pipe theory above. Why > should the terminal emulator matter if more won't scroll back when its > input is a pipe? Nonetheless, I tried installing st and its behavior is > bizarre. Every character displayed has a lot of whitespace after it, > including what you type. I could not get man to work and gave up. I am > running a newly installed Void on a PC with an AMD processor, ATI video > hardware and no desktop system, just a window manager (dwm). > >> >> Am Mittwoch, 16. September 2015 20:29:25 UTC+2 schrieb Donald Allen: >>> >>> When displaying manpages with man, more is used. Typing '?' at more >>> claims that 'b' or 'ctrl-b' will scroll backwards. It does not work. The >>> 'v' command doesn't work either. >>> >> ------=_Part_432_320305511.1442476949083 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Your right the terminal has nothing to do with it, i use l= ess as $PAGER too.

PAGER=3Dmore man man
Breaks the scrollback, i= f it try "more somelargefile" it works.

More is part of th= e util-linux package and therefore it is the only pager installed by defaul= t.

Am Mittwoch, 16. September 2015 22:58:56 UTC+2 schrieb Dona= ld Allen:

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On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 2:38:47 PM UTC-4, Duncaen wrote:
About 'v', do= you have setup $EDITOR or $VISUAL in your shell environment.
On the pr= oblem with 'b' or '^b', the man page of more says it only w= orks with files and not with pipes, is this the problem?

Sounds very plausible. I'm used to the man on Arch, which = presents the man pages in a vim-like environment (maybe it is vim?). The si= mple vi commands work, and 'gg' gets you to the top, as in vim. The= use of more, particularly if you can't scroll back, is big step backwa= rds (pun intended).
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For me it works as expected with st as terminal emulator.=

That would not seem to be consistent with y= our pipe theory above. Why should the terminal emulator matter if more won&= #39;t scroll back when its input is a pipe? Nonetheless, I tried installing= st and its behavior is bizarre. Every character displayed has a lot of whi= tespace after it, including what you type. I could not get man to work and = gave up. I am running a newly installed Void on a PC with an AMD processor,= ATI video hardware and no desktop system, just a window manager (dwm).

Am Mitt= woch, 16. September 2015 20:29:25 UTC+2 schrieb Donald Allen:
When displaying manpages with ma= n, more is used. Typing '?' at more claims that 'b' or '= ;ctrl-b' will scroll backwards. It does not work. The 'v' comma= nd doesn't work either.
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