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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_986_1942775484.1545475853605" X-Original-Sender: smooeycom@gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list voidlinux@googlegroups.com; contact voidlinux+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 289663804196 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , ------=_Part_986_1942775484.1545475853605 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_987_721665892.1545475853606" ------=_Part_987_721665892.1545475853606 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You were being nasty dumb fuck... I didn't ask anyone to do shit on here. I= =20 was only complaining about the browser not able to install on Void linux.= =20 This was AFTER trying it in other non-systemd OS's and I got fed up with=20 it. Then for you to say "if you want to provide a horrible webkit fork,=20 just do the work yourself and stop complaining and begging others to do=20 it." I didn't beg anyone to shit man. and to imply if I knew how to do it,= =20 i'd provide a horrible webkit fork myself... wtf... you just need to shut= =20 the fuck up. why hop in my post if nothing valuable to add to it.. i'm=20 still here not able to install it in Void linux... did you provide a "fix"= =20 or to "help" me? Nope.. just insinuating I'm begging others to do it and=20 I'd provide another crap webkit for it... and why do I keep getting CC in= =20 emails when I unsubscribed from the list hours ago... and deleted previous= =20 posts. Oh, that's right.. because dumb fuck wants to make sure I keep=20 getting his little jabs at me, to keep me pissed off and blame for shit I= =20 didn't do...how nice mr not helpful but only condescending and belittling= =20 and round about nasty ass.=20 if you also want to provide a horrible webkit fork just do the work to=20 add it to the package repository yourself.=20 stop complaining or begging for other people to do it.=20 On Saturday, December 22, 2018 at 4:56:53 AM UTC-5, hiro neu wrote: > > >As for people being nasty, there's a lot of people on the mailing list= =20 > who are simple users and not devs for the project, myself included.=20 > > yep. i don't know why Smo needs to use personal attacks like calling=20 > me "nasty". i'm just telling my personal opinion as a user of this=20 > mailing list, i have no other affiliation to the voidlinux project.=20 > > Smo's his first mail made me wonder if he's trying to pressure the=20 > project into providing him services for free, by making it seem like=20 > voidlinux would otherwise lose tons of potentially important users=20 > (like him?).=20 > > the rest of the mail is a little rant about web browsers, so skip if=20 > you don't like the topic:=20 > > mozilla is financed by google, who would like to make you believe (now=20 > more than ever, with microsoft pulling out of it's own web engine)=20 > there is an alternative to google's monopoly over the web standards.=20 > > mozilla will continue to implement whatever standards google declares.=20 > additionally it makes sense they've been using the ad revenue money=20 > they received from google to market their browser as something=20 > ethically superior. google would demand this. they clearly wouldn't=20 > want to risk any painful anti-monopoly policies by any governments.=20 > > originally being about presentation, the web is now much more, e.g. a=20 > distributed computing framework to enable a load of commercial=20 > interests that happen to coincide with the consumption of digital and=20 > material products.=20 > > it was never supposed to focus strongly on privacy, anonymity or=20 > security in any form, and it is harder than ever to protect against=20 > the many - by-design - data-leaking channels, that only get more=20 > plentyful with rising complexity.=20 > > mozilla will not, and does not want to, change that.=20 > > On 12/22/18, 'Sam Schmalzried' via voidlinux > wrote:=20 > > On the topic of adding software to the Void repos, you can find some=20 > pretty=20 > > comprehensive instructions here: https://wiki.voidlinux.org/Xbps-src.= =20 > Once=20 > > you get Brave working on your own machine, you can follow those=20 > instructions=20 > > and it will at least be included in the xbps-src repo which is the=20 > easiest=20 > > way to add software to the project.=20 > >=20 > > As for people being nasty, there's a lot of people on the mailing list= =20 > who=20 > > are simple users and not devs for the project, myself included.=20 > >=20 > > Last, in response to hiro: what's wrong with Firefox and FF-based=20 > browsers?=20 > > Last I checked Mozilla is pretty committed to open source, and what=20 > little=20 > > information collection they have enabled is easy enough to opt out of.= =20 > >=20 > > Sam Schmalzried=20 > >=20 > > =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Origina= l Message =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90= =20 > > On Friday, December 21, 2018 4:13 PM, Smo Oey > wrote:=20 > >=20 > >> I ain't complaining that it's not added, you don't gotta get nasty. I= =20 > >> don't know how to add all that stuff and didn't think any random users= =20 > >> could mess with the voidlinux repos or whatever. If that's how "Devs"= =20 > act=20 > >> or treat general users or whatever, then forget Void. Don't need this= =20 > shit=20 > >> from anyone.=20 > >>=20 > >> On Friday, December 21, 2018 at 4:38:58 PM UTC-5, hiro neu wrote:=20 > >>=20 > >>> even though i agree that webkit and firefox based browsers should be= =20 > >>> dropped for privacy reasons, people are obviously providing all kinds= =20 > >>> of horrible popular packages without asking me.=20 > >>>=20 > >>> if you also want to provide a horrible webkit fork just do the work t= o=20 > >>> add it to the package repository yourself.=20 > >>>=20 > >>> stop complaining or begging for other people to do it.=20 > >>=20 > >> --=20 > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google=20 > Groups=20 > >> "voidlinux" group.=20 > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send= =20 > an=20 > >> email to voidlinux+...@googlegroups.com .=20 > >> To post to this group, send email to void...@googlegroups.com=20 > .=20 > >> To view this discussion on the web visit=20 > >> [ > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/voidlinux/574cb087-58c9-42b9-8b39-228d6= e6c1a21%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/voidlinux/574= cb087-58c9-42b9-8b39-228d6e6c1a21%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=3Demail&utm= _source=3Dfooter)=20 > .=20 > > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.=20 > >=20 > > --=20 > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google=20 > Groups=20 > > "voidlinux" group.=20 > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send= =20 > an=20 > > email to voidlinux+...@googlegroups.com .=20 > > To post to this group, send email to void...@googlegroups.com=20 > .=20 > > To view this discussion on the web visit=20 > >=20 > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/voidlinux/zBh3l9uE5YYbR4ccFOMhnC5cWzfld= L6InQFVaXqDrb8KNEkAed1b1Mysn9GUNJVHDeO5IEW3S4nYml4AdYWWaoyydj7Cj5_gXNa_jAk2= 6iM%3D%40protonmail.com.=20 > > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.=20 > >=20 > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= voidlinux" group. 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You were being nasty dumb fuck... I didn't ask anyone = to do shit on here. I was only complaining about the browser not able to in= stall on Void linux. This was AFTER trying it in other non-systemd OS's= and I got fed up with it. Then for you to say "if you want to provide= a horrible webkit fork, just do the work yourself and stop complaining and= begging others to do it." I didn't beg anyone to shit man. and to= imply if I knew how to do it, i'd provide a horrible webkit fork mysel= f... wtf... you just need to shut the fuck up. why hop in my post if nothin= g valuable to add to it.. i'm still here not able to install it in Void= linux... did you provide a "fix" or to "help" me? Nope= .. just insinuating I'm begging others to do it and I'd provide ano= ther crap webkit for it... and why do I keep getting CC in emails when I un= subscribed from the list hours ago... and deleted previous posts. Oh, that&= #39;s right.. because dumb fuck wants to make sure I keep getting his littl= e jabs at me, to keep me pissed off and blame for shit I didn't do...ho= w nice mr not helpful but only condescending and belittling and round about= nasty ass.=C2=A0

if you also want to provide a ho= rrible webkit fork just do the work to=C2=A0
add it to the package repos= itory yourself.=C2=A0

stop complaining or begging for other people t= o do it.=C2=A0
=



On Saturday, December 22, 2018 at 4:56:53 AM UTC-5, hiro neu wrote:>As for people being nasty, th= ere's a lot of people on the mailing list who are simple users and not = devs for the project, myself included.

yep. i don't know why Smo needs to use personal attacks like callin= g
me "nasty". i'm just telling my personal opinion as a use= r of this
mailing list, i have no other affiliation to the voidlinux project.

Smo's his first mail made me wonder if he's trying to pressure = the
project into providing him services for free, by making it seem like
voidlinux would otherwise lose tons of potentially important users
(like him?).

the rest of the mail is a little rant about web browsers, so skip if
you don't like the topic:

mozilla is financed by google, who would like to make you believe (now
more than ever, with microsoft pulling out of it's own web engine)
there is an alternative to google's monopoly over the web standards= .

mozilla will continue to implement whatever standards google declares.
additionally it makes sense they've been using the ad revenue money
they received from google to market their browser as something
ethically superior. google would demand this. they clearly wouldn't
want to risk any painful anti-monopoly policies by any governments.

originally being about presentation, the web is now much more, e.g. a
distributed computing framework to enable a load of commercial
interests that happen to coincide with the consumption of digital and
material products.

it was never supposed to focus strongly on privacy, anonymity or
security in any form, and it is harder than ever to protect against
the many - by-design - data-leaking channels, that only get more
plentyful with rising complexity.

mozilla will not, and does not want to, change that.

On 12/22/18, 'Sam Schmalzried' via voidlinux <void...@googlegroup= s.com> wrote:
> On the topic of adding software to the Void repos, you can find so= me pretty
> comprehensive instructions here: https://wik= i.voidlinux.org/Xbps-src. =C2=A0Once
> you get Brave working on your own machine, you can follow those in= structions
> and it will at least be included in the xbps-src repo which is the= easiest
> way to add software to the project.
>
> As for people being nasty, there's a lot of people on the mail= ing list who
> are simple users and not devs for the project, myself included.
>
> Last, in response to hiro: what's wrong with Firefox and FF-ba= sed browsers?
> Last I checked Mozilla is pretty committed to open source, and wha= t little
> information collection they have enabled is easy enough to opt out= of.
>
> Sam Schmalzried
>
> =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Or= iginal Message =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80= =90
> On Friday, December 21, 2018 4:13 PM, Smo Oey <smoo...@gmail.com= > wrote:
>
>> I ain't complaining that it's not added, you don't= gotta get nasty. I
>> don't know how to add all that stuff and didn't think = any random users
>> could mess with the voidlinux repos or whatever. If that's= how "Devs" act
>> or treat general users or whatever, then forget Void. Don'= t need this shit
>> from anyone.
>>
>> On Friday, December 21, 2018 at 4:38:58 PM UTC-5, hiro neu wro= te:
>>
>>> even though i agree that webkit and firefox based browsers= should be
>>> dropped for privacy reasons, people are obviously providin= g all kinds
>>> of horrible popular packages without asking me.
>>>
>>> if you also want to provide a horrible webkit fork just do= the work to
>>> add it to the package repository yourself.
>>>
>>> stop complaining or begging for other people to do it.
>>
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