From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: jedi_papi@yahoo.com Received: from krantz.zx2c4.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by krantz.zx2c4.com (ZX2C4 Mail Server) with ESMTP id a6415b23 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2018 22:04:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sonic315-36.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (sonic315-36.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.65.60]) by krantz.zx2c4.com (ZX2C4 Mail Server) with ESMTP id d1ef3a7b for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2018 22:04:50 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 22:02:55 +0000 (UTC) From: Jose Marinez To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" Message-ID: <102798049.8226155.1527976975020@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20180601163852.bjlmnqjeqd5eidvo@kajt.de> <20180601165401.olea7a7gljb4zwtx@kajt.de> <1311152671.8205402.1527975806101@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Wireguard on android w/o kernel module MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8226154_48443554.1527976975018" Cc: WireGuard mailing list List-Id: Development discussion of WireGuard List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , ------=_Part_8226154_48443554.1527976975018 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jason, I'm looking into that specific aspect as we speak. Google at times has "pec= uliar ways" to conceive of how users would interact with Android, maybe thi= s is one of them. However, I've seen developers abuse APIs in self interest= for a number of reasons. On iOS, once a VPN app is disconnected, it automatically ceases the right t= o "always on." I'll dig around and get back to you on this. =C2=A0 Thanks,Jose On Saturday, June 2, 2018, 5:49 PM, Jason A. Donenfeld wr= ote: On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 11:47 PM Jose Marinez wrote: > Pardon me, as I just sent a related message without reading this one firs= t. The fact remains, there should be a better way to handle and prevent thi= s. Care to poke around in the APIs and see if you can come up with something automatic and useful? Jason ------=_Part_8226154_48443554.1527976975018 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jason,

I'm looking into that specific aspect as we sp= eak. Google at times has "peculiar ways" to conceive of how users would int= eract with Android, maybe this is one of them. However, I've seen developer= s abuse APIs in self interest for a number of reasons.

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On iOS, once a VPN app is disconnected, it automatically ceases the ri= ght to "always on."

I'll dig around and get back t= o you on this.  


Thanks,
Jose

On Saturday, June 2, 2018, 5:49 PM, Jason A. Donenfeld <= ;Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote:

On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 11:47 PM Jose Marinez <jedi= _papi@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Pardon me, as I just = sent a related message without reading this one first. The fact remains, th= ere should be a better way to handle and prevent this.
Care to poke around in the APIs and see if you can come up= with
something automatic and useful?


Jason
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