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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	Julia Lawall <Julia.Lawall@inria.fr>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org,
	bridge@lists.linux.dev, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	"Naveen N. Rao" <naveen.n.rao@linux.ibm.com>,
	Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, wireguard@lists.zx2c4.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ecryptfs@vger.kernel.org,
	Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>, Olga Kornievskaia <kolga@netapp.com>,
	Dai Ngo <Dai.Ngo@oracle.com>, Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-can@vger.kernel.org,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, coreteam@netfilter.org,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/14] replace call_rcu by kfree_rcu for simple kmem_cache_free callback
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2024 07:53:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <62757652-8874-45d7-afec-734edeb03831@paulmck-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240613071738.0655ff4f@kernel.org>

On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 07:17:38AM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 20:38:02 -0700 Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > o	Make rcu_barrier() wait for kfree_rcu() objects.  (This is
> > 	surprisingly complex and will wait unnecessarily in some cases.
> > 	However, it does preserve current code.)
> 
> Not sure how much mental capacity for API variations we expect from
> people using caches, but I feel like this would score the highest
> on Rusty's API scale. I'd even venture an opinion that it's less
> confusing to require cache users to have their own (trivial) callbacks
> than add API variants we can't error check even at runtime...

Fair point, though please see Jason's emails.

And the underlying within-RCU mechanism is the same either way, so that
API decision can be deferred for some time.

But the within-slab mechanism does have the advantage of also possibly
simplifying reference-counting and the potential upcoming hazard pointers.
On the other hand, I currently have no idea what level of violence this
change would make to the slab subsystem.

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-13 14:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-09  8:27 Julia Lawall
2024-06-09  8:27 ` [PATCH 01/14] wireguard: allowedips: " Julia Lawall
2024-06-09 14:32   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-06-09 14:36     ` Julia Lawall
2024-06-10 20:38     ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-06-10 20:59       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-06-12 21:33 ` [PATCH 00/14] " Jakub Kicinski
2024-06-12 22:37   ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-12 22:46     ` Jakub Kicinski
     [not found]     ` <7e58e73d-4173-49fe-8f05-38a3699bc2c1@kernel.dk>
2024-06-12 23:04       ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-12 23:31     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-06-13  0:31       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-06-13  3:38         ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-13 12:22           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-06-13 12:46             ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-13 14:11               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-06-13 15:12                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-17 15:10             ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-06-17 16:12               ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-17 17:23                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-06-17 18:42                   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2024-06-17 21:08                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-06-18  9:31                       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2024-06-18 16:48                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-18 17:21                           ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-06-18 17:53                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-19  9:28                               ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-06-19 16:46                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-21  9:32                                 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2024-06-19  9:51                           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2024-06-19  9:56                             ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-06-19 11:22                               ` Uladzislau Rezki
2024-06-17 18:54                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-17 21:34                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-06-13 14:17           ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-06-13 14:53             ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2024-06-13 11:58     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-06-13 12:47       ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-13 13:06         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2024-06-13 15:06           ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-13 17:38             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2024-06-13 17:45               ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-13 17:58                 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2024-06-13 18:13                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-14 12:35                     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2024-06-14 14:17                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-14 14:50                         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2024-06-14 19:33                       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-06-17 13:50                         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2024-06-17 14:56                           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-06-17 16:30                             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2024-06-17 16:33                               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-06-17 16:38                                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-06-17 17:04                                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-06-17 21:19                                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-06-17 16:42                                 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2024-06-17 16:57                                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-06-17 17:19                                     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2024-06-17 14:37                         ` Vlastimil Babka

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