From: Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@google.com>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Cc: "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] remove CONFIG_ANDROID
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2022 15:26:33 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC_TJve_Jk0+XD7VeSJVvJq4D9ZofnH69B4QZv2LPT4X3KNfeg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yry6XvOGge2xKx/n@zx2c4.com>
On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 1:47 PM Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Kalesh,
>
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 12:05:23PM -0700, Kalesh Singh wrote:
> > Thanks for raising this.
> >
> > Android no longer uses PM_AUTOSLEEP, is correct. libsuspend is
> > also now deprecated. Android autosuspend is initiatiated from the
> > userspace system suspend service [1].
> >
> > A runtime config sounds more reasonable since in the !PM_AUTOSLEEP
> > case, it is userspace which decides the suspend policy.
> >
> > [1] https://cs.android.com/android/platform/superproject/+/bf3906ecb33c98ff8edd96c852b884dbccb73295:system/hardware/interfaces/suspend/1.0/default/SystemSuspend.cpp;l=265
>
> Bingo, thanks for the pointer. So looking at this, I'm trying to tease
> out some heuristic that wouldn't require any changes, but I don't really
> see anything _too_ perfect. One fragment of an idea would be that the
> kernel treats things in autosuspending mode if anybody is holding open a
> fd to /sys/power/state. But I worry this would interact with
> non-autosuspending userspaces that also hold open the file. So barring
> that, I'm not quite sure.
>
> If you also can't think of something, maybe we should talk about adding
> something that requires code changes. In that line of thinking, how
> would you feel about opening /sys/power/userspace_autosuspender and
> keeping that fd open. Then the kernel API would have
> `bool pm_has_userspace_autosuspender(void)` that code could check.
> Alternatively, if you don't want refcounting fd semantics for that, just
> writing a "1" into a similar file seems fine?
>
> Any strong opinions about it? Personally it doesn't make much of a
> difference to me. The important thing is just that it'd be something
> you're willing to implement in that SystemSuspend.cpp file.
Hi Jason,
Thanks for taking a look. I'm concerned holding the sys/power/state
open would have unintentional side effects. Adding the
/sys/power/userspace_autosuspender seems more appropriate. We don't
have a use case for the refcounting, so would prefer the simpler
writing '0' / '1' to toggle semantics.
Thanks,
Kalesh
>
> Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-06-29 22:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-06-29 15:01 Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-29 15:01 ` [PATCH] " Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-29 15:27 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-06-29 16:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-06-29 16:09 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 16:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-29 16:13 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 16:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-29 16:25 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 16:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-29 16:38 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 16:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-29 16:52 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 17:00 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-06-29 17:10 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 17:19 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-06-29 17:30 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 17:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-29 17:42 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 18:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-06-29 16:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-06-29 17:19 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 17:34 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 19:05 ` Kalesh Singh
2022-06-29 19:41 ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-06-29 20:47 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 22:26 ` Kalesh Singh [this message]
2022-06-29 23:02 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 23:19 ` Kalesh Singh
2022-06-30 0:36 ` Joe Perches
2022-06-30 0:50 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-30 1:44 ` Joe Perches
2022-06-30 3:02 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 23:52 ` John Stultz
2022-06-30 0:24 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-30 0:30 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-30 4:25 ` Kalesh Singh
2022-06-30 10:05 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-30 17:12 ` John Stultz
2022-06-30 17:24 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-01 20:22 ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-07-01 20:53 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 16:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-06-29 16:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-29 16:45 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 17:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
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