From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3133C2D0E4 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 18:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from krantz.zx2c4.com (krantz.zx2c4.com [192.95.5.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A2F322201 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 18:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="vB0R0dPt" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 0A2F322201 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=wireguard-bounces@lists.zx2c4.com Received: by krantz.zx2c4.com (ZX2C4 Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7821327d; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 18:08:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yb1-xb2f.google.com (mail-yb1-xb2f.google.com [2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2f]) by krantz.zx2c4.com (ZX2C4 Mail Server) with ESMTPS id acaa8a46 (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO) for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 18:08:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yb1-xb2f.google.com with SMTP id s8so6193114yba.13 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 10:12:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ev6DO5EGRJpDsd0QC+yjQ6Himadeqrhjr77BI4p7dDo=; b=vB0R0dPtifiQHkmhLWJ4zWFVteAUQxTIoPnzC6FiehYsau01Q0KZLkACnrcIAudWMz A8CtQGXBHmE34cPovUw9xtUPuQzxSaePYVLXyaRPbuqEPtHyHiikJ+KJEKphBpsguJ75 gI39LOBFZagE4kfdIwEktrm1fcaT2skFhD6Y0/T+g1RyMAwMoV/yR7VEWncmCUoZ1EyD X8uAmRV9rySt/8/zg4S9RCDufqzfByO8cQP0DGPPU+02epvdhy+9f+8n0OZ2P/ojh70u fC3MoVcx2NeD/7CB+901Qqt7yJAaLd9PzkAzSUQGr+8VnmYob8wKbBCb9X7kDfz/xuD0 SQ8g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ev6DO5EGRJpDsd0QC+yjQ6Himadeqrhjr77BI4p7dDo=; b=YD2Sye99SF/OWD9bk9ksurL6izzxjgqaQzVd3eTYs871U47HbFTbL0WsZ1bY+Oy22W XV7saEzFakU8nqc6CmuB3EOOihfIKOrkOmsxoo0D7cWIG/MSQP6htIzmvr+muuVSvHVB 4DWXurtUbxycyr/oMsNm0TSBizwGz9yhQ4N7hkCZVXqUjX/0GzbBk8zzXk7euZih/kIU pA7KxMgULAUbZ8vNk1GU23Enp8zlgvmkv2EVme2RKtLDfkSiKEag+BORQjCzIxMEuulp PKe+a4PtTABjsynRW4DRkb+OA7i8a1GINfOVLSl82QYzsxwY6NyxxcyoYn+6ZJS8JNSy VzXg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM53288Mo3au8a4rtS9c4aZLJjz8512belDU8nUI7x/pttcifZp6WE YgUQ6pMLfqg3z1bgOiVict5w9WuuhjC0IcKlNK4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy6YERrWjhjm1YHgDdHzwcMDOQOiYSphEMDPVTNxa1Krq3YPyArUr5fHXm/or8RNFKmkFESlbG9Gc6NxG036u8= X-Received: by 2002:a25:7542:: with SMTP id q63mr1146605ybc.176.1605204747212; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 10:12:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Neal Gompa Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 13:11:51 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Should we sunset Windows 7 support? To: noloader@gmail.com Cc: "Jason A. Donenfeld" , WireGuard mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: wireguard@lists.zx2c4.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30rc1 Precedence: list List-Id: Development discussion of WireGuard List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: wireguard-bounces@lists.zx2c4.com Sender: "WireGuard" On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 12:39 PM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 7:29 AM Jason A. Donenfeld wrot= e: > > > > Windows 7 has been EOL'd by Microsoft since January of this year. It > > is no longer receiving security updates or fixes. This email is to get > > the conversation started about doing the same with WireGuard for > > Windows. > > Microsoft does not determine when an operating system is obsolete. The > market does. > > Windows 7 still has a 24.79% market share. > https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx. Microsoft is absolutely the one determining obsolescence for *Microsoft Windows*. They are the sole proprietor of the operating system. If you want it to be different, don't use Windows. -- =E7=9C=9F=E5=AE=9F=E3=81=AF=E3=81=84=E3=81=A4=E3=82=82=E4=B8=80=E3=81=A4=EF= =BC=81/ Always, there's only one truth!