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From: "Jason E. Aten" <j.e.aten@gmail.com>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	WireGuard mailing list <wireguard@lists.zx2c4.com>
Subject: Re: nat traversal / userspace impl
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 16:28:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPNEFAZZziFPm7mDxBA8WDYROBaBP-fv8RsYjGtTLDDd46+0Xw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHmME9qQmaQXBJ+pR6MHx90fUb0_EmwriBo6=rRupEDFF6d=Yg@mail.gmail.com>

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On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com>
wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 7:45 PM, Jason E. Aten <j.e.aten@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 1. If it uses UDP only, how does NAT traversal (firewall punch through)
> > work?
>
> The same way UDP punching works every place else.
>

Thanks, Jason, for the quick reply.

If I read through the wikipedia article on UDP hole punching, it (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UDP_hole_punching) suggests that a public 3rd
party is needed.

> S is a public server with a well-known, globally reachable IP address.

...which makes total sense. Conversely, I don't see described anywhere a
public 3rd party protocol for wireguard clients to rendezvous.

I found this post:
https://lists.zx2c4.com/pipermail/wireguard/2016-August/000372.html, which
makes rendezvous seem like an after thought.

Should I conclude that addressing NAT-ed clients is not something that
WireGuard itself plans to address?

The "number of security problems" with the approach mentioned in passing in
the 2016-August message would need enumeration and addressing. Is anybody
thinking about those? Is this on the roadmap for future plans?

Regards,
Jason

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-17 21:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-17 17:45 Jason E. Aten
2017-04-17 17:55 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-04-17 21:28   ` Jason E. Aten [this message]
2017-04-17 21:30     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-04-17 21:36       ` Jason E. Aten

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