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From: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: "John Stultz" <jstultz@google.com>,
	"Kalesh Singh" <kaleshsingh@google.com>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
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	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] remove CONFIG_ANDROID
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 22:53:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yr9e0JnUbu93Qq1p@zx2c4.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a69slh0x.fsf@meer.lwn.net>

Hi Jon,

On Fri, Jul 01, 2022 at 02:22:38PM -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> So please forgive the noise from the peanut gallery

Yuh oh, I sure hope this isn't newsworthy for LWN. This has already
consumed me for two days...

> myself wondering...do you really need a knob for this?  The kernel
> itself can observe how often (and for how long) the system is suspended,
> and might well be able to do the right thing without explicit input from
> user space.  If it works it would eliminate a potential configuration
> problem and also perhaps respond correctly to changing workloads.
> 
> For example, rather than testing a knob, avoid resetting keys on resume
> if the suspend time is less than (say) 30s?
> 
> Educate me on what I'm missing here, please :)

What you're missing is that wireguard needs to do this before going to
sleep, not when waking up, because one of the objectives is forward
secrecy. See
https://git.zx2c4.com/wireguard-linux/tree/drivers/net/wireguard/device.c#n63

	if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PM_AUTOSLEEP) || IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ANDROID))
		return 0;
	if (action != PM_HIBERNATION_PREPARE && action != PM_SUSPEND_PREPARE)
		return 0;
	[...]
	wg_noise_handshake_clear(&peer->handshake);
	wg_noise_keypairs_clear(&peer->keypairs);

Somebody asked the same question on wgml here -
https://lore.kernel.org/wireguard/CAHmME9p2OYSTX2C5M0faKtw2N8jiyohvRqnAPKa=e7BWynF7fQ@mail.gmail.com/T/
- and then eventually suggested that I should wake up computers from
sleep to clear that memory. No way jose.

Anyway, this matter has been resolved in this thread here:
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220630191230.235306-1-kaleshsingh@google.com/T/
And this Android change:
https://android-review.googlesource.com/c/kernel/common/+/2142693/1
Resulting in these two commits landing in Greg's tree:
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/gregkh/char-misc.git/commit/?id=261e224d6a5c43e2bb8a07b7662f9b4ec425cfec
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/gregkh/char-misc.git/commit/?id=1045a06724f322ed61f1ffb994427c7bdbe64647
So hopefully this thread can come to an end and I can get back to work.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-01 20:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-29 15:01 Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-29 15:01 ` [PATCH] " Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-29 15:27   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-06-29 16:07   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-06-29 16:09   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 16:10     ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-29 16:13       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 16:15         ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-29 16:25           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 16:30             ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-29 16:38               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 16:45                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-29 16:52                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 17:00                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-06-29 17:10                       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 17:19                         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-06-29 17:30                           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 17:35                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-29 17:42                               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 18:59                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-06-29 16:56                   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-06-29 17:19                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 17:34                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 19:05                   ` Kalesh Singh
2022-06-29 19:41                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-06-29 20:47                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 22:26                       ` Kalesh Singh
2022-06-29 23:02                         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 23:19                           ` Kalesh Singh
2022-06-30  0:36                             ` Joe Perches
2022-06-30  0:50                               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-30  1:44                                 ` Joe Perches
2022-06-30  3:02                                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 23:52                           ` John Stultz
2022-06-30  0:24                             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-30  0:30                               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-30  4:25                                 ` Kalesh Singh
2022-06-30 10:05                                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-30 17:12                                     ` John Stultz
2022-06-30 17:24                                       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-01 20:22                               ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-07-01 20:53                                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld [this message]
2022-06-29 16:34           ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-06-29 16:37             ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-29 16:45               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 17:04                 ` Paul E. McKenney

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