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From: Matthias Urlichs <matthias@urlichs.de>
To: wireguard@lists.zx2c4.com
Subject: Re: DNS name resolution should not be done during configuration parsing.
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 08:59:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ed8879bd-4a2e-662a-b908-6b31354e64c2@urlichs.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ce051517-9325-824c-3299-ba08138e7912@ironai.com>


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On 19.02.19 16:45, Vincent Wiemann wrote:
> A kernel VPN module should not depend
> on a user space daemon for doing regular checks or a daemon running at
> all.

It doesn't. You only need userspace when the external IP address changes
*and* the other side either doesn't initiate a link to us, or can no
longer reach us due to firewall or NAT issues. This is already orders of
magnitude better than OpenVPN.

DNS is a complex protocol that's nontrivial to implement securely,
DNSSEC even more so. You do not want that in the kernel. I'd wager a
large chunk of money that neither does Linus Torvalds.

>     One could build up on
>     https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/networking/dns_resolver.txt ,
>     but it's a lot of work and shouldn't be a goal before WireGuard becomes
>     an upstream kernel module.

    I'm pretty sure that's the way to go long-term.

Umm … you might want to read that. It specifies upcalling to userspace.
How is that better than running a WG daemon?

We'd also lose flexibility. I might want to teach that WG daemon to get
the new address from somewhere else, like a secure connection to a VPN
server (given that DNS timeouts might be too long), or to use that
netlink callback to trigger an alert or to activate a fallback connection.

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-- Matthias Urlichs


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  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-21  7:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-14 22:28 Eryk Wieliczko
2019-02-17  3:03 ` David Kerr
2019-02-17  4:08   ` Jeffrey Walton
2019-02-17 12:40     ` Eryk Wieliczko
2019-02-17 13:07       ` Jeffrey Walton
2019-02-17 13:15         ` Eryk Wieliczko
2019-02-19  3:01     ` zrm
2019-02-19  7:22       ` Matthias Urlichs
2019-02-19 14:26         ` Lonnie Abelbeck
2019-02-19 15:45         ` Vincent Wiemann
2019-02-21  7:59           ` Matthias Urlichs [this message]
2019-02-22  1:29             ` Vincent Wiemann
2019-02-19 14:58       ` David Kerr
2019-02-17 12:47   ` Eryk Wieliczko
2019-02-17 18:26   ` Vincent Wiemann

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