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From: Ray Andrews <rayandrews@eastlink.ca>
To: zsh-users@zsh.org
Subject: Re: Can zsh `else` reserved keyword command be aliased and the lexem itself be repurposed as `fi` keyword command?
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 09:16:42 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <049465fb-b49d-9984-73ce-fd5672bec01a@eastlink.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH+w=7ar+MYVEHXPuFOMAQp0N4sr4N9JS4YXRz1707OPMQ4FMQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 29/12/17 03:45 PM, Bart Schaefer wrote:
>
> If  you realize that aliasing is mostly analogous to #define in
> C-and-friends, this becomes less horrifying.  It's little more than a
> built-in preprocessor.

When you put it that way, yes, the horror diminishes ... just so long as 
no anarchist tries to redefine 'alias' or some such thing. There HAS to 
be something who's meaning is not negotiable.

   #define define "undefine"
   #define undefine "define"
   alias alias="this must surely be forbidden"

I dunno, maybe there are reasons to want to fiddle with reserved words 
but it seems blasphemous to me.  Never mind.
>
>> But I am curious, what does it
>> mean to say that an interpreted program is incomplete?
> In this case it means any unfinished complex code structure -- "if"
> without "fi", "do" without "done", "case" without "esac", "foreach"
> without "end".  Mathieu wants execution to begin as soon as there is
> some code in the buffer, without waiting for the final keyword to
> appear.
>
I see.  Well, just for my education, why would that be impossible?  The 
protections zsh offers us against unfinished code are obviously helpful 
virtually always, but since we are interpreting, would it not be 
possible to just sorta turn those protections off and march blindly 
ahead executing each line in turn until the cliff is reached and some 
sort of crash happens? I'd expect the shell would have to crash at that 
point, or maybe there could be some kind of graceful auto-return, with a 
sort of presumptive close of all open grammars so that no feathers are 
ruffled.  But I'd expect such a thing should be doable, strange as it 
seems to want it.  Would that not be what would have happened in the 
early days before code checking was implemented?


   setopt crash_and_burn ?

   setopt press_on_regardless ?

   setopt close_everything_magically ?

   setopt 
no_code_checking_we_warned_you_not_to_do_this_but__did_you_listen ?  ;-)



  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-12-30 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-28 15:07 mathieu stumpf guntz
2017-12-28 15:19 ` mathieu stumpf guntz
2017-12-29  8:47   ` Bart Schaefer
2017-12-29 10:51     ` mathieu stumpf guntz
2017-12-29 19:15       ` Bart Schaefer
2017-12-29 19:29         ` mathieu stumpf guntz
2017-12-29 19:49           ` Bart Schaefer
2017-12-29 20:27             ` Ray Andrews
2017-12-29 23:45               ` Bart Schaefer
2017-12-30  1:07                 ` Bart Schaefer
2017-12-30  9:50                   ` mathieu stumpf guntz
2017-12-30 10:05                     ` Frank Terbeck
2017-12-30 17:22                   ` Ray Andrews
2017-12-30 22:06                     ` Bart Schaefer
2017-12-30 23:00                       ` Ray Andrews
2017-12-30 17:16                 ` Ray Andrews [this message]
2017-12-30 22:23                   ` mathieu stumpf guntz
2017-12-30 23:06                     ` Ray Andrews
2017-12-30 23:32                       ` mathieu stumpf guntz
2017-12-30  9:36               ` mathieu stumpf guntz
2017-12-30 17:39                 ` Ray Andrews
2017-12-29 22:59       ` Nikolay Aleksandrovich Pavlov (ZyX)
2017-12-29  8:38 ` Bart Schaefer
2017-12-29 10:24   ` mathieu stumpf guntz

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