From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16599 invoked by alias); 18 Feb 2018 00:17:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-users-help@zsh.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Id: Zsh Users List List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: X-Seq: 23141 Received: (qmail 4107 invoked by uid 1010); 18 Feb 2018 00:17:22 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Diagnostics: from mta02.eastlink.ca by f.primenet.com.au (envelope-from , uid 7791) with qmail-scanner-2.11 (clamdscan: 0.99.2/21882. spamassassin: 3.4.1. Clear:RC:0(24.224.136.13):SA:0(-1.5/5.0):. Processed in 7.31799 secs); 18 Feb 2018 00:17:22 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on f.primenet.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD, HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_OBFUSCATE_10_20,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2, SPF_PASS,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Envelope-From: rayandrews@eastlink.ca X-Qmail-Scanner-Mime-Attachments: | X-Qmail-Scanner-Zip-Files: | MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_/6SxvCAx3521Bnnq21QvYA)" X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=OKgJIxSB c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=RnRVsdTsRxS/hkU0yKjOWA==:117 a=RnRVsdTsRxS/hkU0yKjOWA==:17 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=gir0-LH0AAAA:8 a=Qh8IpqIgHwxeQshCltwA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=MSOujYdD6FfRLfbAYrkA:9 a=cejZYIKkL9S2Qz5W:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=aLewGyoHDmJ4ULJHWpSz:22 X-EL-IP-NOAUTH: 24.207.101.9 Subject: Re: alias hygiene To: Bart Schaefer Cc: Zsh Users References: <1679a1e0-f716-e501-c4c2-f7e485f9701f@eastlink.ca> <1518827410.2159479.1273706656.1F5B436D@webmail.messagingengine.com> <37bb7b6b-ad70-6d03-f979-0e0d3b0be4d3@eastlink.ca> <1518875676.3562728.1274073304.5ED24DC8@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20f1c297-7c7d-109f-b9ee-b53823aa476c@eastlink.ca> <1518881445.3606980.1274127384.7D7A2004@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: Ray Andrews Message-id: <05e4360b-4989-af2b-70b6-79c2aef06f95@eastlink.ca> Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 16:17:12 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 In-reply-to: Content-language: en-CA --Boundary_(ID_/6SxvCAx3521Bnnq21QvYA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT On 17/02/18 02:04 PM, Bart Schaefer wrote: > On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 7:42 AM, Ray Andrews wrote: >> Ok, that at least is good to know. Now I have to figure out from your >> example what a widget is, I've heard the term but so far I have no clue what >> sort of critter they might be. > A "widget" is just an arbitrary thing that you've built. It's like > using the word "foo" as a placeholder for an abstract value. As far > back as I remember, a "widget" was used in economics to refer to an > unspecified object, such as a consumer good or a machine part, that > was manufactured by a hypothetical factory or sold by a hypothetical > wholesaler or retailer, but you can probably find earlier meanings > with an etymology search. When windowing UIs became a thing back in > the 80s it got retconned into a portmanteau of "window gadget" and > used to describe components of the desktop. Zsh borrowed the term to > refer to the chunk of programming, whether C or shell function, that > implements a named and therefore bindable operation in the ZLE editor. > That doesn't sound too terrible, not some actualnew construction? So a function can be a widget? Show me one that I can understand and then I'll stop imagining that it's some new horror.  When would I call something a widget, not a function? When it's associated with ZLE?  Yeah, that sounds about right. --Boundary_(ID_/6SxvCAx3521Bnnq21QvYA)--