From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11753 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2005 15:48:07 -0000 Received: from news.dotsrc.org (HELO a.mx.sunsite.dk) (130.225.247.88) by ns1.primenet.com.au with SMTP; 7 Feb 2005 15:48:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 80202 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2005 15:48:01 -0000 Received: from sunsite.dk (130.225.247.90) by a.mx.sunsite.dk with SMTP; 7 Feb 2005 15:48:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 21221 invoked by alias); 7 Feb 2005 15:47:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-users-help@sunsite.dk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-Seq: 8475 Received: (qmail 21205 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2005 15:47:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO a.mx.sunsite.dk) (130.225.247.88) by sunsite.dk with SMTP; 7 Feb 2005 15:47:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 76142 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2005 15:46:47 -0000 Received: from out007pub.verizon.net (HELO out007.verizon.net) (206.46.170.107) by a.mx.sunsite.dk with SMTP; 7 Feb 2005 15:46:45 -0000 Received: from candle.brasslantern.com ([4.11.10.129]) by out007.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050207154643.NGSC11919.out007.verizon.net@candle.brasslantern.com>; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 09:46:43 -0600 Received: from candle.brasslantern.com (IDENT:schaefer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by candle.brasslantern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j17Fkds2018042; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 07:46:39 -0800 Received: (from schaefer@localhost) by candle.brasslantern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j17Fkdmi018041; Mon, 7 Feb 2005 07:46:39 -0800 From: Bart Schaefer Message-Id: <1050207154639.ZM18040@candle.brasslantern.com> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:46:39 +0000 In-Reply-To: <9pne01dvg9doit25jn1jga3o5cltoveh8q@4ax.com> Comments: In reply to zzapper "Re: list all except" (Feb 7, 12:37pm) References: <20050204113026.GA4217@fruitcom.com> <1050204174426.ZM15180@candle.brasslantern.com> <1050206002342.ZM16866@candle.brasslantern.com> <9pne01dvg9doit25jn1jga3o5cltoveh8q@4ax.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (5.0.0 30July97) To: zzapper , zsh-users@sunsite.dk Subject: Re: list all except MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out007.verizon.net from [4.11.10.129] at Mon, 7 Feb 2005 09:46:40 -0600 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 on a.mx.sunsite.dk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=6.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Hits: -2.6 On Feb 7, 12:37pm, zzapper wrote: } Subject: Re: list all except } } On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 19:02:48 +0000, wrote: ^^ Curiosity: Is the blank attribution there because gmane obscures the sender identity for spam-prevention reasons? } But what sort of thing could be wrong with my current setup? } How can I start debugging that? I suggest first renaming all your ~/.z* files (so that zsh won't find them on startup), then run zsh normally. If the problem persists, it's with one of the /etc/z* files. If the problem goes away when you've renamed your ~/.z* files, then start renaming them back to their original names one at a time, starting a new zsh after each rename until the problem reappears. Then you'll know what file you have to look at. Once you know what file, start chopping it up by inserting "return 0" about half way through that file. If the problem persists, it's in the top half, so move the "return 0" to 1/4 of the way through; if not, move the "return 0" to 3/4 of the way through. Continue bisecting the problem portion of the file until you isolate the problem. You might also run zsh with -x (but without -f) to see all the commands it's executing during startup. } /etc/zshenv just has a return 0 (which I was supposed to remove but I } don't pick up my ~/.zshenv if I do) That's odd in and of itself. Do you mean that if you "rm /etc/zshenv" then your ~/.zshenv is not read, or do you mean that if you delete the "return 0" then ...? If the latter, is there really nothing else in /etc/zshenv, that is, it's empty except for "return 0"? You're sure there's not, for example, an assignment to ZDOTDIR or HOME in /etc/zshenv? What other /etc/z* files do yo have?