From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5825 invoked by alias); 17 Apr 2014 19:37:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-users-help@zsh.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Id: Zsh Users List List-Post: List-Help: X-Seq: 18728 Received: (qmail 17381 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2014 19:37:14 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on f.primenet.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 From: Bart Schaefer Message-id: <140417123722.ZM22179@torch.brasslantern.com> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 12:37:22 -0700 In-reply-to: <534FE710.3020601@eastlink.ca> Comments: In reply to Ray Andrews "Re: setopt interactivecomments" (Apr 17, 7:37am) References: <140416102727.ZM19090@torch.brasslantern.com> <534FE710.3020601@eastlink.ca> X-Mailer: OpenZMail Classic (0.9.2 24April2005) To: zsh-users@zsh.org Subject: Re: setopt interactivecomments MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Apr 17, 7:37am, Ray Andrews wrote: } Subject: Re: setopt interactivecomments } } On 04/16/2014 10:37 AM, shawn wilson wrote: } > } > It's disabled because it always has been, and therefore enabling it } > might break longstanding usage. } > ... } } My adoption of Linux was set back about ten years by this sort of } thinking. Well, *my* adoption of Linux is continually frustrated by exactly the opposite thinking, to wit, that every new release of something has to be based on the bloodiest edge and can disregard whatever came before. Oh, look, a new version of jellymaker is out -- but the API is entirely different, so I'll have to try to find new versions of everything that uses it, and it requires the latest libsnozzberry which also has a new API, so I'll also have to try to replace everything else that depends on *that*, etc. etc. etc. Thanks, but no. } It was longstanding usage that we write with goose quill on parchment. } Let's forget about longstanding usage, break with all tradition, and } have zsh, as she comes out of the box, show folks what she can do. We [*] did try that back in around, oh, 1996 IIRC. It was a mess. It turns out that if turn on ALL the cool features by default, the result is even more confusing than having your backspace key not work. What did eventually happen after the mess was cleaned up is that the zsh-newuser-install system got created. It could use an update, but is intended to walk you through enabling the stuff that you're most likely to want. [*] I use the term "we" loosely because I personally quit working on zsh for a couple of years until sanity had been restored.