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From: Bart Schaefer <schaefer@brasslantern.com>
To: zsh-users@zsh.org
Subject: Re: backreferences
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 05:35:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <151016053555.ZM31602@torch.brasslantern.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56208CF8.1070906@eastlink.ca>

On Oct 15, 10:36pm, Ray Andrews wrote:
}
} > 	if [[ "$sstring" = (#b)((^(edcba))*)(edcba)(*) ]]
} >
} > There are 5 sets of parens, and you care about $match[1], $match[4],
} > and $match[5].  $match[2] is the prefix of $match[1] that was not
} > consumed by the middle *, and $match[3] is an empty substring of
} > $match[2] (because it was excluded from matching).  Count off the
} > open parens left to right to see this.
} At the moment I'm quite confounded.  So '(b#)' is looking at every set 
} of '()' even
} when nested and even when 'doing something else'?

Yes.

} > In fact you don't even need the middle * because (^edcba) will eat
} > an arbitrarily long string as long as it is not literally "edcba".
} Well, that's the original question.

As noted in my follow-up mail, what I wrote there is actually not right;
the part after "because" is correct, but the part about not needing the
middle * is wrong, because (^edcba) matches xxxxedcbaxxxx just fine, and
I assume you don't want that.

} > So you can reduce this to
} >
} > 	if [[ "$sstring" = (#b)(^edcba)(edcba)(*) ]]

This needs to be (#b)(^edcba*)(edcba)(*)

} God knows.  But your simplified command works fine too, and I'll
} take it on faith.  I've never seen any sort of 'any number of characters'
} sort  of thing look other than:
} [....]*

No, now you're confusing grep-style regular expressions with zsh patterns.
    EGREP	ZSH
    .		?
    .*		* or ?#
    .+		?##
    .?		(?|)
    [xyz]	[xyz]
    [xyz]*	[xyz]#

There's a lot more but those are the most important bits.

} ... so you can see where I'd go astray there.  Ok, so
} ^(edcba)
} is individual character matches and
} (^edcba)
} is  anything up to "edcba"

No.  [^edcba] is individual character matches and (^edcba) is anything
other than the literal string edcba, including longer strings that have
edcba as a substring.  Negated patterns are really tricky.


  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-16 12:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-15 18:28 backreferences Ray Andrews
2015-10-15 23:16 ` backreferences Bart Schaefer
2015-10-16  1:16   ` backreferences Ray Andrews
2015-10-16  2:30     ` backreferences Bart Schaefer
2015-10-16  4:11       ` backreferences Mikael Magnusson
2015-10-16  4:27         ` backreferences Kurtis Rader
2015-10-16  5:42           ` backreferences Ray Andrews
2015-10-16  5:05         ` backreferences Bart Schaefer
2015-10-16  5:28           ` backreferences Bart Schaefer
2015-10-16  5:46             ` backreferences Ray Andrews
2015-10-16 11:14         ` backreferences Peter Stephenson
2015-10-16  5:36       ` backreferences Ray Andrews
2015-10-16 12:35         ` Bart Schaefer [this message]
2015-10-16 16:37           ` backreferences Ray Andrews
2015-10-17  3:33             ` backreferences Bart Schaefer
2015-10-17  5:16               ` backreferences Ray Andrews

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