From: "Lawrence Velázquez" <larryv@zsh.org>
To: "Ray Andrews" <rayandrews@eastlink.ca>
Cc: zsh-users@zsh.org
Subject: Re: path PATH
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2023 19:49:44 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <166e189c-6203-49e5-acf9-eea4893c50b2@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a18db793-c2ce-5d47-34aa-8be1ea745fcc@eastlink.ca>
On Sun, Jan 22, 2023, at 6:58 PM, Ray Andrews wrote:
> On 2023-01-22 15:35, Lawrence Velázquez wrote:
>>
>> It was not written to "fix" typeset -p; it was written to satisfy
>> your idiosyncratic preferences.
> Neither Bart nor Roman would indulge me if there was no merit at all to
> what I want.
They are performing a kindness by giving you a tool that suits your
personal tastes. Their generosity does not carry any broader
implications about how the shell should or should not behave.
> But in this case I'm right
Proclaiming your righteousness ad nauseam is not persuasive, and
you should stop doing it.
> what's idiosyncratic
> about wanting full information about a parameter along with it's value?
> What's ever wrong with complete information?
The shell already provides multiple methods of obtaining all this
information. The fact that you don't like any of them does not
mean that it needs to sprout a new one.
Again, there's nothing wrong with that. One of the purposes of a
shell is to empower users to construct their own tools. This is
as it should be.
>> This should absolutely not be done.
>
> Why not? Honest question. DP can of course remain as a stand-alone
> function, but what would harm if it were bolted in to typeset?
Adding functionality always imposes a variety of costs, and typeset
is already overly complex. The functionality you want to add is
just a repackaged version of existing functionality, so it does not
justify those costs.
> I'm just wondering why other's shouldn't have it too.
The zsh distribution is not the place to publish scripts written
to scratch your itches.
--
vq
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-23 0:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-20 21:57 Ray Andrews
2023-01-20 22:20 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-21 2:23 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-21 6:11 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2023-01-21 15:18 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-21 15:25 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-21 16:21 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-21 16:38 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-21 16:54 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-21 17:01 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-21 18:53 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-21 19:09 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-21 20:50 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-21 21:11 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-21 20:19 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-21 20:26 ` env arrays (was: Re: path PATH) zeurkous
2023-01-22 17:28 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-21 21:03 ` path PATH Ray Andrews
2023-01-21 21:52 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2023-01-22 0:42 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-22 12:29 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-22 14:17 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-22 16:15 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-22 17:23 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-22 19:20 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-22 19:31 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-22 19:51 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-22 19:56 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-22 20:03 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-22 21:56 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-22 22:02 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-22 22:27 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-22 23:03 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-22 20:12 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-22 21:11 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-22 22:44 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-22 23:35 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2023-01-22 23:58 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-23 0:49 ` Lawrence Velázquez [this message]
2023-01-23 1:33 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-23 1:49 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2023-01-23 1:11 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-23 1:56 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-23 2:59 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2023-01-23 3:47 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-23 10:37 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-23 15:28 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-23 15:40 ` zeurkous
2023-01-23 16:02 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-23 16:25 ` zeurkous
2023-01-23 16:26 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-24 20:00 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-24 20:42 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-24 20:50 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-24 20:54 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-24 23:28 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-24 23:42 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-25 0:14 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-25 16:38 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-25 16:43 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-25 16:56 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-25 17:02 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-25 17:34 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-25 17:37 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-25 18:26 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-25 18:34 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-25 19:00 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-26 2:13 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-26 2:37 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-26 4:27 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-26 20:26 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-26 20:29 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-26 20:59 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-26 21:17 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-26 21:41 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-26 21:44 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-26 22:36 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-26 22:43 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-27 0:19 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-27 3:36 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-27 17:51 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-27 20:45 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-27 21:09 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-27 23:45 ` scowles
2023-01-28 0:12 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-28 3:47 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-28 16:42 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-28 22:51 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-29 2:30 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-29 3:03 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-29 3:44 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-29 4:35 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-29 15:54 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-29 21:21 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2023-01-29 22:33 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-29 22:42 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2023-01-30 0:42 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-30 0:46 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-30 4:41 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-30 5:16 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2023-01-30 6:55 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-30 14:40 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-30 14:55 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-30 14:56 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-30 15:56 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-30 16:09 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-30 16:24 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-30 16:34 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-30 23:05 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-30 17:50 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-31 0:42 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-26 22:18 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-25 22:18 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-25 23:10 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-25 23:19 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-26 0:55 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-22 19:52 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-21 16:48 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-21 5:47 ` Lawrence Velázquez
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