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This is happening because SORBS, a widely-used anti-spam blocklist, has for the past several months been listing as "currently sending spam" a growing subset of gmail's SMTP relay server IP addresses. The current hosting of the zsh.org lists and archives is donated by primenet.com.au, an ISP in Australia. It is their network which employs the SORBS blocklist, and they are not able to provide special treatment for the zsh list addresses. We are looking for other hosting options, but it is difficult to find an affordable solution that is also able to address the technical problems of moving the list software and archives. Also, we're all volunteers and have limited time to spend on this task. As a workaround, I've created two new email addresses that will accept mail intended for the zsh mailing lists and forward it to zsh.org: zsh-users@closedmail.org zsh-workers@closedmail.org The mailing list software requires that the list address appear in the To: or Cc: headers, so in order to use one of the above forwarders you must address your message (for example) To: zsh-workers@zsh.org Bcc: zsh-workers@closedmail.org This may result in two copies of the message reaching the list if you happen to catch one of the gmail servers that is not on the blocklist, and may also result in you receiving a bounce even though the Bcc copy made it through; so this is not an ideal solution, but perhaps gets the job done for now. I am sending this message from a gmail-hosted account. If you are reading it, the forwarding address is working. If you are a gmail user and have difficulty getting email through to the lists, please try Bcc'ing one of these alternate addresses. I hope this is helpful, and thank you for your patience while we seek other alternatives. -- Bart -- Barton E. Schaefer