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boundary="------------XfxrfwI0On7LqdLIHxEC37q5" Message-id: <17fae209-0f7f-4738-9e2c-e9392f2e6843@eastlink.ca> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 12:45:53 -0700 MIME-version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_ls_*=2Emp4_=E2=86=92_ls_=3A_invalid_option_--_=27M?= =?UTF-8?Q?=27?= Content-language: en-US To: zsh-users@zsh.org References: <875y3bvtos.fsf@example.com> <1312746524.945376.1697209990281@mail.virginmedia.com> <179314f9-333c-4baa-9dab-6fa397ab2f64@eastlink.ca> From: Ray Andrews In-reply-to: X-Seq: 29301 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-users@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-users-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-users-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: , List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------XfxrfwI0On7LqdLIHxEC37q5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 2023-10-16 11:21, Bart Schaefer wrote: > with the presumption that they are filenames > Only true of globbing. So I understand.  Otherwise there's nothing to do and zsh has nothing to say about the matter. > >> if someone has filenames that mimic de facto options when globbing is done, are they not a victim of their own liberty? > They might be a "victim" of file sharing from a different operating system. True, but then mere anarchy is loosed upon the world and zsh can hardly be asked to salvage it.  I leave a resolution to wiser people, I'm just sharing my philosophical take on the thing.  Me, I thought that when Windows started allowing spaces in filenames that was the beginning of the downfall of the West.  The laws of information theory scream against it.  But here we are.  Dunno, but it seems to me like that EDITOR setting thing you just cleaned up -- too much helpfulness when what was needed was a direct and explicit imperative.  zsh should 'officially' fix only that which is robustly fixable and also zsh's natural responsibility.  My two cents. --------------XfxrfwI0On7LqdLIHxEC37q5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit


On 2023-10-16 11:21, Bart Schaefer wrote:

with the presumption that they are filenames 
Only true of globbing.
So I understand.  Otherwise there's nothing to do and zsh has nothing to say about the matter.


if someone has filenames that mimic de facto options when globbing is done, are they not a victim of their own liberty?

They might be a "victim" of file sharing from a different operating system.

True, but then mere anarchy is loosed upon the world and zsh can hardly be asked to salvage it.  I leave a resolution to wiser people, I'm just sharing my philosophical take on the thing.  Me, I thought that when Windows started allowing spaces in filenames that was the beginning of the downfall of the West.  The laws of information theory scream against it.  But here we are.  Dunno, but it seems to me like that EDITOR setting thing you just cleaned up -- too much helpfulness when what was needed was a direct and explicit imperative.  zsh should 'officially' fix only that which is robustly fixable and also zsh's natural responsibility.  My two cents.  



    

  


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