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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Medium X-Mailer: Open-Xchange Mailer v7.8.4-Rev72 X-Originating-IP: 165.225.81.118 X-Originating-Client: open-xchange-appsuite X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfJyag0SDEat9o0SGcnYIjXty4UvCQZtN2o8GOMqrmot5dPkhnJN71uYVGodJpw9pqjfw3ExMGjAtn3JcuQLkxXaBNTvUtd/e5GKD7SEtjMrO0o6Mkiw4 4IyCATrKJ+HUDxexqTvGYoc0uDuvB2FehHKuSbYuYCqbQjLYfX1UhsADmw5gL9seifbaj61jDRrcuH1ohYG4raGFb2n786ClA4S0+sZBUFgaJqURKkXBB5Mc X-Seq: 26894 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-users@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-users-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-users-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: > On 10 August 2021 at 16:30 Ray Andrews wrote: > Sorta? interactive ~= background? Very very very very very roughly, "interactive" in this sense means it's showing you prompts and bringing up a line editor to edit the command line. (To be less rough, go back to Roman's original question, but I think we're off at a tangent here.) Being "non-interactive" doesn't mean you can't interact with the shell. There's still probably a standard input and output. It just means it's not giving you the bit of extra help you get at a terminal to make things easy. Well, not necessarily easy, but... pws