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To: zsh-users@zsh.org References: <7c81f1c2-6054-4c63-dc5d-154ab8b184f3@eastlink.ca> From: Ray Andrews Message-id: <1e81c550-3874-ac06-c72a-5166c9801ff1@eastlink.ca> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 05:00:22 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.12.0 MIME-version: 1.0 In-reply-to: Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Content-language: en-US X-Seq: 26860 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-users@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-users-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-users-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: On 2021-08-04 9:08 a.m., Bart Schaefer wrote: > That was a direct result of (1) GNU attempting to force all the > documentation into info format while the GUI help tools were still > man-page based, and (2) Linux vendors leaving out the full manual > pages by default because they wanted the smallest possible > distributions. Sheesh.  I love those little insights you provide.  But yes, no conversation is the rule here.