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boundary="------------iMd7cgjuA0Zk390oVzrKsQ0B" Message-id: <1ef0e668-be0a-4742-869d-95085e34f035@eastlink.ca> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2024 11:08:32 -0800 MIME-version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Fwd: more splitting travails Content-language: en-US To: Bart Schaefer Cc: zsh-users@zsh.org References: <205735b2-11e1-4b5e-baa2-7418753f591f@eastlink.ca> <970c7767-3f26-4cc9-a4f1-a7d62eca4ded@eastlink.ca> From: Ray Andrews In-reply-to: X-Seq: 29467 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-users@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-users-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-users-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: , List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------iMd7cgjuA0Zk390oVzrKsQ0B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 2024-01-13 10:22, Bart Schaefer wrote: > That would be tilde, not (P). I was about to explore the difference.  I have them conflated in my head at the moment. > http://rocky.github.io/zshdb/ > Never really tried it myself, but the author has sought advice from > the lists on occasion. I'll check it out.  Tx. So, bottom line of this thread is that things have to be sent forward with the right massaging to make sure blanks are not removed: > "${(@f)vvar}" < ... trying to retrieve the blanks after the fact is impossible cuz they're gone.  Only thing left to wish for is someway of making it the default that all assignments will include *everything*.  Oh, and don't be fooled by a single element that happens to have newlines within it -- they might look the same but they ain't.  > % read  read -rd '' < testfile2 aaa < ... is a false friend because '$aaa' will be a single element.  Likewise > : ${vvar2::=$vvar} < is a false friend because it looses blanks.   Seems a verbatim exact assignment is not really provided, which seems very strange.  But Roman has shown a solution. --------------iMd7cgjuA0Zk390oVzrKsQ0B Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit


On 2024-01-13 10:22, Bart Schaefer wrote:
That would be tilde, not (P).
I was about to explore the difference.  I have them conflated in my head at the moment. 
http://rocky.github.io/zshdb/ 
Never really tried it myself, but the author has sought advice from
the lists on occasion.

I'll check it out.  Tx.

So, bottom line of this thread is that things have to be sent forward with the right massaging to make sure blanks are not removed: > "${(@f)vvar}" < ... trying to retrieve the blanks after the fact is impossible cuz they're gone.  Only thing left to wish for is someway of making it the default that all assignments will include *everything*.  Oh, and don't be fooled by a single element that happens to have newlines within it -- they might look the same but they ain't.  > % read  read -rd '' < testfile2 aaa < ... is a false friend because '$aaa' will be a single element.  Likewise > : ${vvar2::=$vvar} < is a false friend because it looses blanks.   Seems a verbatim exact assignment is not really provided, which seems very strange.  But Roman has shown a solution.

 

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