From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18822 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2002 19:43:58 -0000 Received: from sunsite.dk (130.225.247.90) by ns1.primenet.com.au with SMTP; 29 Jun 2002 19:43:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 12482 invoked by alias); 29 Jun 2002 19:43:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-users-help@sunsite.dk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-Seq: 5124 Received: (qmail 12469 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2002 19:43:47 -0000 Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 12:43:38 -0700 From: william@hq.newdream.net (Will Yardley) To: zsh-users@sunsite.dk Subject: Closed list? (was Re: A new game) Message-ID: <20020629194338.GE7597@hq.newdream.net> Mail-Followup-To: zsh-users@sunsite.dk References: <200206291805.UAA12831@mailbox-5.st1.spray.net> <20020629190414.GB7597@hq.newdream.net> <1020629192923.ZM9213@candle.brasslantern.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1020629192923.ZM9213@candle.brasslantern.com> Organization: New Dream Network User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Bart Schaefer wrote: > On Jun 29, 12:04pm, Will Yardley wrote: > > is there still widespread opposition to closing this list to non-members > I don't think that's the solution, at least for viruses. The virus > that started this particular thread mails itself to address book > entries while using other address book entries to forge the From: > header. That makes it reasonably likely that either the sender is a > subscriber, or would appear to be one unless the SMTP envelope were > examined by the list software. > > The list is run with ezmlm, which implies qmail; it ought to be > possible to plug in some kind of a virus filter with qmail-scanner. yes, but if the From address is forged, isn't there a good chance that the person whose address is in the From: header isn't a subscriber? anyway piping the list through demime might help a bit, although a lot of viruses would still get through that. i am not worried about being infected, but it is a waste of time and bandwidth for all parties involved. also, closing the list (or better, requiring confirmation for posts from non-list members) would still cut out most / all of the spam that gets sent to this list. i haven't personally used TMDA, and it looks like it's a bit of a pain to setup, but it would be good for this sort of thing (and i'd imagine it can be configured to work with qmail / EZMLM). just my $0.02 -- Will Yardley input: william < @ hq . newdream . net . >