From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20489 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2004 11:20:06 -0000 Received: from news.dotsrc.org (HELO a.mx.sunsite.dk) (130.225.247.88) by ns1.primenet.com.au with SMTP; 9 Nov 2004 11:20:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 6597 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2004 11:19:56 -0000 Received: from sunsite.dk (130.225.247.90) by a.mx.sunsite.dk with SMTP; 9 Nov 2004 11:19:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 6938 invoked by alias); 9 Nov 2004 11:19:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-users-help@sunsite.dk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-Seq: 8192 Received: (qmail 6924 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2004 11:19:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO a.mx.sunsite.dk) (130.225.247.88) by sunsite.dk with SMTP; 9 Nov 2004 11:19:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 5342 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2004 11:18:46 -0000 Received: from 220-244-116-62-nsw.tpgi.com.au (HELO localhost) (220.244.116.62) by a.mx.sunsite.dk with SMTP; 9 Nov 2004 11:18:44 -0000 Received: from nicko by localhost with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CRU1F-0004s8-00; Tue, 09 Nov 2004 22:18:37 +1100 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 22:18:37 +1100 From: Nick Croft To: "Matthias B." Cc: Nick Croft , zsh-users@sunsite.dk Subject: Re: bindkey -v and alt-. for previous cmd arg Message-ID: <20041109111837.GA14226@tandv.ws> References: <20041103124858.GA1476@tandv.ws> <20041103135335.GB22247@DervishD> <20041103194444.GB1476@tandv.ws> <20041103195700.GA23399@DervishD> <20041103200138.GA23419@DervishD> <20041104114333.GC1476@tandv.ws> <20041104152010.61207970@buddha.localdomain.de> <20041107115300.GA3107@tandv.ws> <20041107142914.67d0b94e@buddha.localdomain.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041107142914.67d0b94e@buddha.localdomain.de> X-Editor: Vim http://www.vim.org/ X-Info: http://www.tandv.ws/ Organisation: Theme and Variations X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux 2.4.21-xfs (i686) X-Uptime: 21:49:07 up 2 days, 23:09, 8 users, load average: 0.36, 0.44, 0.50 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 on a.mx.sunsite.dk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=6.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Hits: 0.0 * Matthias B. (msbREMOVE-THIS@winterdrache.de) wrote: > > man xterm > > Never file bug reports without having read the manpage. > Thanks Matthias, I skimmed through the manpage. The debian bug reporting system isn't entirely the same as bug reporting upstream. It refers mostly to the particular way the debian package is prepared. There are 8 levels of `bug' ranging from critical bugs (which may relate to the upstream development) through to `wishlist' bugs. I filed this one at the appropriate level - that referring to the usability of the package. Not everyone wants to be, or has time to be, an X or xterm or zsh developer. We use these packages gratefully and in good faith. If your work output is suddenly put in jeopardy and needs 10 - 30 hours research to find a solution then the same is probably true for many others. The least you can do is file a report. The debian bugs can occur in as a result of injudicious selection of options in the compiling. I don't wish to bring the distribution any negative publicity by this, but among the 100's of packages being updated daily, occasionally a severe mistake gets through (probably 0.01% or less of the time). The worst I've seen is the time when an upgrade to postgresql managed to wipe out the all the databases of anyone who had the misfortune to upgrade. The bug only lasted a day for two fortunately. I mention all this in the context of having for some time compiled my own xterms in the days before utf-8 support was standard for debian. On the other hand, I use the unstable debian distribution so I have to be prepared to experience some inconvenience from time to time. ++++++++++++++++ That said, thanks for the pointer to the 8-bit option. I do appreciate your input. Nick Croft