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From: Meino Christian Cramer <Meino.Cramer@gmx.de>
To: schaefer@brasslantern.com
Cc: zsh-users@sunsite.dk
Subject: Re: The opposite of bindkey -m
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 03:12:33 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060903.031233.74751405.Meino.Cramer@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <060902112143.ZM17880@torch.brasslantern.com>

From: Bart Schaefer <schaefer@brasslantern.com>
Subject: Re: The opposite of bindkey -m
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:21:43 -0700

> On Sep 2,  5:46pm, Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
> > 
> >  Is there any way to "disable" bindkey -m without restarting zsh ?
> 
> I think you're confused about something here.
> 
> Vim, zsh, and mc are all just programs getting their input from a
> terminal or terminal emulator.  The key bindings in zsh do not affect
> what is sent by the terminal to any of the other programs; they only
> affect how zsh interprets the input that is sent to it.  When zsh runs
> an external program like vim or mc, it steps completely aside, so those
> programs are getting input directly from the terminal, not "mediated"
> through zsh's key bindings.
> 
> Thus "bindkey -m" is not what causes the terminal to send what you're
> calling "binary" to zsh or to vim, it's only telling zsh what to do
> when it receives binary.  Control of what is sent is somewhere else,
> probably in a terminfo definition.  In other words, you must have
> changed something other than just bindkey, and you may have changed
> it somewhere external to zsh (such as in your terminal emulator's
> configuration file).
> 
> If it's the terminfo, the setting of the TERM variable can change to
> an alternate definition, and you might "fix" mc by something like
> 
> 	alias mc='TERM=vt100 mc'
> 
> (choose a more appropriate value for TERM than vt100, that's just an
> example).  If instead it's the emulator's configuration, the TERM
> setting might also help if you can find one that matches what the
> emulator is sending -- but if that doesn't work, you may not be able
> to get both vim and mc to receive the input they expect.  Either way
> the solution won't have anything to do with zsh key bindings.
> 

Hi Bart,

 thanks for the explanations. :) 

 I thought, that the input would be chained:

 (input)->mrxvt->zsh->mc

 because these apps were started in that order.

 Yes, I have changed mrxvt via the option "-m8" to produce Meta-keys
 as "binary" values (sorry, dont know, what the correct terminux
 technicus is here...) instead of key sequences.

 I thnk, I get lost here. 

 The only way seems to be an alias of that form:

 alias='mrxvt -e mc'  #...leaving off the "-m8"

 but this will popup a new window. One reason for choosing mc was,
 that it does not create a new window and runs in the current
 terminal.
 Sigh

 keep hacking!
 mcc


  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-03  1:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-02 15:46 Meino Christian Cramer
2006-09-02 18:21 ` Bart Schaefer
2006-09-03  1:12   ` Meino Christian Cramer [this message]
2006-09-03  5:24     ` Bart Schaefer

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