From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29757 invoked by alias); 10 Sep 2012 00:16:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-users-help@zsh.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Id: Zsh Users List List-Post: List-Help: X-Seq: 17244 Received: (qmail 14923 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2012 00:16:06 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on f.primenet.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Received-SPF: none (ns1.primenet.com.au: domain at sym2.noone.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 02:16:01 +0200 From: Axel Beckert To: Mark van Dijk Cc: zsh-users@zsh.org Subject: Re: Zsh on Debian is beginning to rot Message-ID: <20120910001601.GW30122@sym.noone.org> Mail-Followup-To: Mark van Dijk , zsh-users@zsh.org References: <20120909131050.15057aa6@internecto.net> <20120909175104.GV30122@sym.noone.org> <20120909203808.7c627d0c@internecto.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120909203808.7c627d0c@internecto.net> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.6.32-5-xen-amd64 X-Machine: sym2 x86_64 X-Editor: GNU Emacs 23.2.1 Face: 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 Organization: DeuxChevaux.org -- The =?iso-8859-1?Q?Citr?= =?iso-8859-1?B?b+tu?= 2CV Database User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Hi Mark, On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 08:38:08PM +0200, Mark van Dijk wrote: > > Squeeze is about 1.5 years old, Squeeze's feature freeze was in the > > beginning of August 2010 and zsh 4.3.10 was the uptodate zsh > > developement (!) release back then. > > Yeah, so it's 2 years old and it did have some minor fixes since then. > The word 'rot' was chosen poorly sorry about that, if I pissed you > off too much I apologise. Apology accepted. And yeah, we felt hurt -- because we put quite a lot of work in Debian's zsh package, especially over the last 1.5 years since we started to maintain it as a team. (Despite we're still not where we would like to be packaging-wise.) I tried to not sound too pissed, but I seem to have failed there... > Ok, here's the honest answer. While I indeed do realise how Debian > works with their versioning strategy (and I commend them for that in > general) there is a genuine (but admittedly stupid) reason for why I > sent my email -- [...] > -- i.e. I did not check the versioning of Zsh properly. For some reason > the wrong version stuck with me (4.7.13) which is bogative. This > morning I got a bit too annoyed because I kept hitting a couple of > issues that have been fixed after 4.3.10. Had a rotten night, yada > yada, and sent the mail. Thanks for the explanation. Seems as we've both calmed down again already. And that's good. :-) If you do IRC, feel free to come in #pkg-zsh on Freenode. Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News | abe@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | abe@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web)