From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29657 invoked by alias); 10 Sep 2012 11:59:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-users-help@zsh.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Id: Zsh Users List List-Post: List-Help: X-Seq: 17250 Received: (qmail 23675 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2012 11:59:38 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on f.primenet.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Received-SPF: none (ns1.primenet.com.au: domain at vinc17.net does not designate permitted sender hosts) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:59:32 +0200 From: Vincent Lefevre To: zsh-users@zsh.org Subject: Re: Zsh on Debian is beginning to rot Message-ID: <20120910115932.GH16413@xvii.vinc17.org> Mail-Followup-To: zsh-users@zsh.org References: <20120909131050.15057aa6@internecto.net> <87mx0ze7sr.fsf@ft.bewatermyfriend.org> <20120910080650.GG16413@xvii.vinc17.org> <2012-09-10T10-42-59@devnull.michael-prokop.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <2012-09-10T10-42-59@devnull.michael-prokop.at> X-Mailer-Info: http://www.vinc17.net/mutt/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21-6215-vl-r53514 (2012-07-22) On 2012-09-10 10:56:38 +0200, Michael Prokop wrote: > * Vincent Lefevre [Mon Sep 10, 2012 at 10:06:50AM +0200]: > > On 2012-09-09 13:48:20 +0200, Frank Terbeck wrote: > > > > There is a 5.0.0 package in experimental. It's not in sid, because of > > > the current freeze in debian.. > > > That's stupid. Subversion was moved to 1.7 in sid, but in sid, zsh > > remains with svn completion rules that are incompatible with svn 1.7. > > So, unless some zsh update is done (possibly only the completion rules), > > this will be an important regression for users of zsh and svn in the > > next stable version. > > In wheezy there currently is subversion 1.6.17dfsg-4, Ah, OK, but... > so I don't see your point in calling "That's stupid". > *If* subversion 1.7 is targeted for wheezy (pointers to release > exceptions please) then we will try to care of the svn completion. Well, unstable (sid) is still affected, and I don't see why different rules should be applied to subversion and zsh. There are 2 cases: 1. The freeze just prevents unstable packages from entering testing, in which case it would be OK to make zsh 5.0.0 enter unstable (sid) and the sentence "It's not in sid, because of the current freeze in debian." is wrong, or at least very inaccurate. 2. The freeze prevents unstable updates, with the goal to move current unstable packages to testing, in which case it would be better to take care of the svn completion now (that would fix the bug in unstable now and would allow more tests by Debian/unstable users, while still not affecting testing immediately). The idea is to keep zsh synchronized with Subversion incompatible changes at every level. -- Vincent Lefèvre - Web: 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)